Digital BW, The Print

Alan,Whilst i accept what you say, the question is how many of the 
readers of this forum have the money or the knowledge to work with a 
10x 8 neg? Very. very few I imagine. Scanning small format film is a 
big problem in itself as I found out with a Nikon scanner. Currently 
I use a Canon 10d and shoot everything it color. The digital darkroom 
allows the photographer considerable flexibility with post 
processing, for example, you can oversaturate a single color to 
emphise it on the final color to B/W conversion. Add a filter via 
Photoshop, etc, etc. Can you do that with your 10 x 8 tri x neg ?
How much does it cost you to get one 10 x 8 print? Ansel Adams would 
have been all digital by now I'm sure. 
Each to their own, I have a number of BO prints hanging on my wall 
that were shot on both neg and digital, the truth is that I can't see 
any difference from here apart from which subject i like or not like.


Sierra Gold
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "A. Huntley" 
<Alan.Huntley@c...> wrote:
> Robert,
> 
> I am currently using an Epson 1680 Pro applying a wet mount 
technique
> directly on the glass bed. I use Vuescan for most B&W scanning 
because it
> delivers the kind of image I like to work with. I also own 
Silverfast 6 for
> this scanner, but only use this software for color work; I found
> Silverfast's grayscale scanning much to contrasty for my taste, and 
it
> seemed to dump the lower end way before Vuescan. And, yes, I tried 
all of
> the profiles available via Negafix.
> 
> I have only ever tried scanning B&W (Delta 100) on my Scan Dual III 
and
> didn't like it much. I'm really finding that even in the digital 
arena many
> of the old rules still apply. For example, there's not substitute 
for film
> real estate. Scans of my 8x10 Tri-X negs printed to ~ 13x19 are 
absolutely
> gorgeous! My miniature format--4x5--is good, too, with 2 1/4 really 
just
> okay. I'm sure a good medium format scanner like the Nikon 9000 or 
Minolta
> Pro would do wonders for my medium format stuff, but I really don't 
shoot
> enough of this size to justify the cost of the larger film scanners.
> 
> Alan Huntley
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Robert" <LA_Native@h...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 2:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Do most of you still shoot b&w on film?
> 
> 
> Alan:  Which scanner are you using for your Tri-X?  My Canon FS4000
> doesn't take to Tri-X too well -- adding quite a bit of grain and
> messing with the tonal qualities too much.  I've much better success
> with chromogenics, especially XP-2.
> 
> Robert
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "A. Huntley"
> <Alan.Huntley@c...> wrote:
> > Hello Robert,
> >
> > I have yet to find digitally produced B&W to be to my
> liking...maybe, it's
> > just too many years of shooting B&W film. Since I use medium and
> large
> > format for all my B&W, grain, sharpness, and tonal
> transitions/smoothness
> > are not issues for me. I'm also an old foggy who still shoots Tri-
X
> and,
> > probably,
> > still has some Dektol coursing through my veins! <g> Nowadays, I
> scan my
> > film and produce quite nice B&W images usually on PR with an Epson
> 2200
> > driven by IP 5.6. I still miss the look of a finely crafted silver
> print,
> > but do not
> > miss the darkroom at all.
> >
> > Good luck with whatever direction your B&W path leads you.
> >
> > Alan Huntley
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Robert" <LA_Native@h...>
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 9:43 AM
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Do most of you still shoot b&w on film?
> >
> >
> > To get your best b&w work using Epson's Ultrachrome printers, do 
you
> > generally shoot your subjects on film and scan it in?  Have you 
tied
> > shooting digitally, and were you at all satisfied with the end
> result?
> 
> 
> 
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