There's an easy way around that problem. Offer a lifetime reprint guarantee, stamped or printed on the back of each print. This won't affect the exclusivity of limited edition prints as each one has a number and you can ensure that the original is destroyed. mark@... (Mark Tucker) wrote: > (NOTE: This should also probably be labeled a Rant, but I > haven't written it yet, but it's early, and I'm hung over, and I just > got back from a long road trip and I've been shooting in a MaxSecurity > prison, so I'm feeling pretty raw and impatient.-MT)(But not "raw" like > "that"...) > ----- > > Road trips are good. Especially road trips away from computers > and television. For me, I tend to get back into the big picture, and > stop micro-managing so much. > > What's hit me about this list, and about the Epson9000 list, and I > guess the Piezo list too -- EVERYBODY just wants to know if their > prints are gonna last (not fade). They also want to know if they're > gonna shift color. > > How many months (years) have we spent on these lists trying to > figure this out? And in my eyes, we still don't have much of an > answer. Wilhelm has flown the coop, or he's sitting in a > mountain bunker somewhere with a window, a flourescent bulb, > a tungsten bulb, and some ozone -- who knows? And what about > these supposed tests at RIT? Does anybody have any info on > those? > > Personally, I'm ready to get on with it. I'm just at that point in my > life where I'd simply like to start making and selling prints, and I'd > like to shake a customer's hand and look them squarely in the > eye as I receive their check, and send them on their way feeling > solid and confident. (Right now, I honestly cannot do that). It > seems like for every positive post about a certain paper/ink > combination, there's another one a month later refuting those > results. > > I understand that quote that Clark Thomas published (4099), but > at the same time, there's a point when you've got to stop testing > and start printing. That time, for me, is now. I am prepared to buy > almost any printer, if I can only be assured with some sound > backup that the prints are chemically stable. Hell, I might even > take the grandest leap of all, and get a PC machine to run my > 7000, if it turns out that Piezo is the most stable. > > In my (uninformed) eyes, the two finalists right now are: > > * Piezo inks on (?) paper. > * Color Pigment inks on (?) > > I may be wrong. If I am, please correct me, and fill in the blanks > for the papers. I have tried to start databases on this list, to try to > get feedback from people on their success stories. That > information never comes -- that leads me to believe that damn > near everybody on this list is sitting on the sidelines, with that > same puckered-up feeling that I have, wondering to themselves, > "will my prints fade in five years?" > > I am looking for hard facts. Solid information. I guess sticking a > print in a window is OK, but I'd also like to hear from a chemist > also about chemical reactivity between certain inks and certain > paper coatings. > > I like this the people on this list and all, but kinda like AA -- at > some point, you just feel like you ought to be ready to "graduate" > from it, and get on with your life. I'd say our goal, as a group, > should be to some time get together for a beer, but NOT to have > to talk about anything related to print permanence. > > Restless, > > Mark Tucker, http://marktucker.com > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls > and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - Include your full name with your message. > - Include the address of your website, if you have one. > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > keep them short. > - As the topic of a thread changes remember to change the subject > header. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > "flames." > - Complete your Yahoo profile. > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the > various resources on the homepage. > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > >
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Re: [Digital BW] A Call for Standards (Permanence/Stability)
2001-10-13 by derek_c@cix.co.uk
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