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Re: MIS FS, Piezo Quality was [Digital BW] Re: Print Exchange 4 Bernd et al.

2001-10-12 by Julian Thomas

Good thinking martin. I've got a set and a half of piezo left, so maybe by
that time JC will have brought his prices down!

Julian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Wesley" <mwesley250@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 5:46 PM
Subject: MIS FS, Piezo Quality was [Digital BW] Re: Print Exchange 4 Bernd
et al.


> Julian,
>
> Before you run out of the Piezo inks you might want to print some 21-
> step wedges using the profiles and papers you are most likely to be
> using. When you convert to the FS inks print these wedges again and
> compare. If you don't have a good match to the Piezo inks, try
> adjusting the dot density and gamma in the Piezo drive to see if you
> can get a match.
>
> Another approach would be to work out a universal curve that you
> could apply to your images before you go to the Piezo driver to get a
> match.
>
> Alternately you could and probably should do a new Custom Grayscale
> curve in the Color Settings of Photoshop using a wedge printed with
> FS inks. That alone might do the trick. Save the Piezo curve in case
> you decide to switch back.
>
> I think if you do some calibration work up front you should be able
> to operate as normal once you have adjusted for the differences.
>
> Martin Wesley
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Julian Thomas"
> <julianthomas@t...> wrote:
> > Thanks Martin, when my currentpiezo stocks run out I'll try it
> (Unless JC
> > brings theprice of inksdown!) - it'll need more tweaking though?
> More paper!
> >
> > Julian
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Martin Wesley" <mwesley250@e...>
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...>
> > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 4:22 AM
> > Subject: MIS FS, Piezo Quality was [Digital BW] Re: Print Exchange
> 4 Bernd
> > et al.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Shaun Granleese"
> > > <shaun@s...> wrote:
> > > > Julian - this assessment is based on evaluation by myself and my
> > > wife
> > > > (she's a big time PiezoBW user and fan) under incandescent
> light of
> > > > the same image printed on one half (top or bottom) of the same
> > > piece
> > > > of EAM by two different Epson 1160's (one dedicated to each ink
> > > > obviously).
> > > >
> > > > Conclusion: practically indistinguishable in tone and colour,
> > > > sharpness, contrast, smoothness or any other variable we could
> > > think
> > > > of to concentrate on. We both preferred the MIS FS actually.
> > > > Confounding factors: incandescent light was used, it was
> midnight,
> > > > I'm not the guru some of you are, I'd love to pay less for my
> ink
> > > and
> > > > might be biased :-)
> > > >
> > > > Bottom line = I was very impressed.
> > >
> > > Julian,
> > >
> > > I have some of Bernd's prints covering the same range of ink and
> > > driver options and I agree with all Shaun has to say above. I will
> > > add that the MIS FS are not going to print exactly like the Piezo
> > > inks. The process may involve some different adjustment to your
> files
> > > prior to printing. The final results may not be absolutely
> identical
> > > but what they show is that all three options are fully viable
> ways to
> > > make a top quality inkjet print.
> > >
> > > Martin Wesley
> > >
> > > (snip)>
> > > >
> > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Julian Thomas"
> > > > <julianthomas@t...> wrote:
> > > > > Shaun, as someone who has just seen the difference between
> piezo
> > > > and FIS can
> > > > > you describe the two. I don't like the 'blueness' I've ssen of
> > > MIS -
> > > >  how
> > > > > would you describe FIS?
> > > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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