Digital BW, The Print

Tyler and Martin-

At least in my case, this is not to replace piezo and curves that I 
use on my 1160s with MIS inks...this is for my new 2200...I'm not 
thrilled at all with Image print...total blockage in the 95-100 range 
in shadows, pretty good in highlights...plus the costs of maintaining 
IP look like they will be very high (they are working on a price 
model that is fine for an art shop with 6 graphic artists on a 
network sharing one big printer...my case is one photographer in a 
darkroom with 6 printers and one pc...I have to pay 6x what the art 
shop pays for the software and, more importantly, for maintenance.

If there is no other alternative, I may well stick with it, but it 
looks like I can buy an ibook and IJC and try it out for less than 
one license of IP.

Of course, if it does not print as well, it was a fool's errand, but 
not a bad gamble if it works.

cheers,

tom


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley" 
<tyler@t...> wrote:
> You're talking features. Martin specifically asked about print 
quality. 
> I have a report of lack of ability to print a sharp edge at the 
image 
> border and an overall softness with IJC. I've seen the same thing 
with 
> Gimp at the edges, so I'm wondering if it's inherent in the 
dithering.
> All these features are impressive, if one needs them. But if 
someone is 
> using an existing quad set that works well with the Piezo plugin 
(for 
> example) on papers they are happy with, and has no need for these 
> additional benifits, what are you gaining in terms of print quality 
for 
> your time and $$$?
> There's a question, again.
> Another question.
> More on topic, why would anyone go out and get an entire new 
computer, 
> install an operationg system quickly becoming obsolete, instead of 
> simply waiting for a version for for the platform they already own?
> Another question.
> Although I don't use them, if someone is making perfectly beautiful 
> prints with RGB curves, why is it non-sense?
> Tyler
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Robert 
Morrison <
> rmorrison@p...> wrote:
> > You aren't even in the same ball park!  Profile any ink set you 
want...VM,
> > Piezotones, MIS FS...mix and match make a dual photo/matte black 
set...have
> > a cool and warm toner in the same set...anything you want 
Martin.  No silly
> > RBG curve non-sense.  Completely smooth breakless curves.  MIS 
screw up
> > again and send you an ink that is 5% off in density?...no problem 
10 minutes
> > and you are up in running with a modified profile.  Did any one 
say split
> > toning?  Want to run quad in a 2200?
> > 
> > Any questions?
> > 
> > Robert
> > 
> > On 6/4/03 7:21 PM, "Martin Wesley" <mwesley250@e...> wrote:
> > 
> > > I don't mean to be provocative, but is IJC worth the cost and 
hassle
> > > compared to the Piezo/R9 plug-in, the MIS-VM with curves, 2200 
with a RIP or
> > > other work flows? What are you gaining in terms of print 
quality for your
> > > time and $$$?
> > > 
> > > Martin Wesley