Digital BW, The Print

I'm with you Bruce - on eof the most interesting things for me in IJMs new
stuff is the ability to print on the semimatte photo papers.

Julian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce" <smthopr@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 7:43 AM
Subject: [Digital BW] I'm tired of watercolor, I want to paint with oils


> on 3/1/2003 8:45 PM, DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com at
> DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
> > The X-Rite measures the following dmax's for the papers:
> >
> > EEM - 1.68
> >
> > Epson Ultra Smooth - 1.60
> >
> > Eclipse Satine - 1.60.
>
> I was looking through my portfolio today---and I became sad. Sad because
all
> the prints printed with pigmented inks (sundance piezo, generations
enhanced
> pigments) look flat and lifeless.  In the past I've been trying to talk
> myself into thinking that "in the right light" they look ok, and they'll
> last a long time. But, I can't fool myself any longer. While a few prints
> work well with the muted range of the pigmented inks, most don't have the
> sense of depth and 3 dimensionality that I long for and that the medium of
> photography used to portray.  In a nutshell: I'm tired of painting with
> watercolors when I really want to paint with oils.  I mean imagine
Salvador
> Dali's surrealist images painted in muted water colors and blacks.  Those
> melting clocks would be just sittin' flat on the page.
>
> Does anyone here share my frustration with the pigmented ink on art paper
> direction of fine art inkjet printing?
>
> How can I be happy once again with my work? Any suggestions? How's the
> coating/meyer rod thing coming along Robert? Does the Epson 2200 really
have
> the look and feel of dyes on paper?  Please feel free to help me anyone.
>
> I now have an Epson 1200 loaded with CIS and Generations Enhanced inks.
> An Epson 1160 with Piezo (sundance) inks, and plug-in driver.
>
> And a pile of EEM paper and flaking Orwell paper.
>
> Wow, I feel better already now that I've gotten this off my chest. Thanks.
>
>
>
>
> -Bruce
>
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>
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