Digital BW, The Print

Tim, 
I use PiezoBW inks in an 1160 with CIS.  I have a 1200 with ColorPiezo and CIS but I am waiting for new profiles for the new yellow.

In your situation, you may want to "save money in the long run" by buying a CIS for about $120 and a set of ColorPiezo pigment inks for another $120 (for 6  4 ounce bottles).  That is the best deal on color pigment inks I know of and it comes with free profiles to use with the Epson driver.  Outstanding deal I think.  Much better/cheaper in the long run than Epson carts.  And pigmented inks should last much longer etc...etc...

If you want more info on the inks, just go to Inkjetmall.com where there is a complete comparison to other inks. 

Good Luck, 
Steadman
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: tyork@... 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 7:52 PM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Tim York: re:papers


  Thanks Steadman. What inks do you use with Torchon and with what 
  printer? I like printing my b/w as duotones similar to a selenium-
  toned b/w. Right now I'm using a 1280 and can't buy a 2nd printer 
  right away. I just bot a complete new computer with 19" monitor a 
  Canon 4000dpi scanner and the 1280. If I tell the wife I'm going to 
  buy a 2nd printer I may be bunking over at a friends place. Haha.
  I have a Wacom tablet and Painter software to buy yet. So maybe in a 
  couple of months but for now I plan to continue using duotones from 
  color inks. You have helped me make up my mind on the paper so it 
  just leaves the inks to decide about. Thank you for your help.

  Tim










  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Steadman Uhlich" 
  <steadmanuhlich@k...> wrote:
  > Tim, 
  > I visited your site at your invitation and like your work.  Very 
  nice quiet images and well done web gallery.  
  > 
  > There have been many messages/notes on these papers written over at 
  the Piezo3000 list.  Go over there and check back over the last few 
  months for comments.  Just use the "search" feature of the list and 
  type in your paper names and you will get comments and profiles to 
  use etc...
  > 
  > I think any of the Hahnemuhle papers would work fine for your 
  images.  I have never used the cotton canvases so cannot comment on 
  them.  
  > 
  > If I were limited to only one paper for fine art prints (from your 
  list) I would choose the Torchon 285.  It is not as smooth as Turner 
  300 but has a "handmade paper" look to it and print qualities I find 
  very attractive.  Albrecht Durer and Hahnemule 230 have a 
  pronounced "watercolor paper" texture which is very apparent in a 
  print.  Torchon texture is subtle and "disappears" in the image.  At 
  least on all of my images. 
  > 
  > Turner has a smooth surface that also has just a very fine coating 
  texture that aids in hiding any "digital print" look.   A little 
  texture is a fine thing when doing the inkjet prints.  Some papers 
  are too smooth in my opinion.  
  > 
  > Good luck and do go read the archives. 
  > 
  > Steadman
  >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   From: tyork@a... 
  >   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y... 
  >   Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 3:09 PM
  >   Subject: [Digital BW] re:papers
  > 
  > 
  >   Has anyone on this list used any of these papers? I would 
  appreciate 
  >   knowing what inks you used with them and how you made out.
  > 
  >   1.Albrecht Durer 210
  >   2.Hahnemuhle 230
  >   3.Torchon 285
  >   4.Turner 300
  >   5.Hahnemuhle 100% cotton canvas 580
  >   6.Hahnemuhle cotton/poly canvas 575
  > 
  >   I am considering using MIS or Generations inks with my 1280. 
  Piezo is 
  >   also a possibility but cost is also a factor. I am an amateur 
  >   photographer and this is a hobby. If I could impose a little 
  further, 
  >   my url is www.portraitsofnature.net, you can see from the images 
  on 
  >   it the kind of images I will be printing. If any of you have 
  >   recommendations, based on the type of photography I do, regarding 
  >   inks and paper, please let me know. Thank you.
  > 
  >   Regards
  > 
  > 
  >   Tim
  > 
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