Digital BW, The Print

Not only would printing color and toned b&w from one printer be nirvana,
but the possibility of printing b&w on glossy paper is really really
tempting. And on archival inks.
 
-Andy

	-----Original Message-----
	From: tomoc [mailto:TomOC@...] 
	Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 3:59 PM
	To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
	Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Imageprint
	
	
	Robert-
	
	I spoke with them a couple of months ago and they were not
willing to 
	discount a second license at that time. I was also disappointed
they 
	started witht he 1280 printer and have nothing for the
1160...but 
	that probably would change if it really lived up to hopes, one
could 
	upgrade the printers.
	
	Let me just understand one very important thing...are you saying
this 
	is really a software solution that prints BW (profiled) prints
that 
	are as good as PIEZO or (Epson with Roark curves) and you are
using 
	the new 7 color Epson OEM inks???
	
	If that is so, I would seriously look at it again... the nirvana
of 
	color and toned BW prints from the same printer could really be 
	efficient... I had always thought the proposition still would
require 
	MIS or Piezo ink dedicated to BW prints and IP software just 
	replacing PiezoBW...
	
	thanks,
	
	Tom O'Connell
	
	TomOC@...
	www.thomasoconnell.com
	
	
	
	--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Robert Morrison 
	<rmorrison@p...> wrote:
	> On 8/19/02 9:18 AM, "Martin Wesley" <mwesley250@e...> wrote:
	> 
	> > Are you personally using the desktop version?
	> 
	> Yes
	> 
	> > If so, are you satisfied that
	> > it equals the performance of the large format version?
	> 
	> Yes
	> 
	> > I hear lots of
	> > wonderful things about the IP4 and the 7000 but nothing good

	about the
	> > desktop version. Will they really do profiles for the
desktop 
	version if you
	> > send them targets or is that service for the wide format
printers 
	only?
	> 
	> Yes
	> 
	> > I am rather confused since they list support for Lyson,
PiezoBW, 
	MIS-FS and
	> > MIS-VM but if you go to their download section only MIS-FS
for 7 
	papers are
	> > listed for the 1270. 1280 and 1290 Epson's. This does not
seem 
	like a good
	> > buy for $500. They have been promising support for all the
quads 
	but so far
	> > it seems like hype and no delivery.
	> 
	> I believe that support for VM was hijacked by the new epson
printer.
	> Personally, I wouldn't use VM now that the ultracromes are out
for 
	toning.
	> You can get from cool to sepia in a single ink set that you
can 
	also use for
	> color.
	> 
	> There aren't a lot of profile made already...but they will
make 
	whatever you
	> need...that's the key to imageprint.
	>  
	> > Then there is also this paragraph:
	> > 
	> > "IMAGEPRINT is purchased on a per printer basis rather than
per 
	computer.
	> > Once the printer has been licensed, you can print to it from
as 
	many
	> > different computers as you'd like using one copy of
IMAGEPRINT. 
	Printers can
	> > be added at any time and no additional hardware is required.
The 
	same dongle
	> > can be used to unlock an unlimited number of printers. To
add a 
	new printer,
	> > simply purchase the additional license, and we'll provide
you 
	with a new
	> > encryption key that will unlock IMAGEPRINT."
	> > 
	> > So I would need to spend $1000 for my two 1280's which is
not very
	> > attractive. They are making a mistake trying to sell to the 
	desktop market
	> > using the same marketing model they use to sell to service 
	bureaus. Their
	> > interest in the desktop printers seems pretty weak which
also 
	makes me
	> > reluctant to get involved.
	> > 
	> No, the license is not nearly as much for the second printer.
Just 
	speak
	> with them directly...my guess is that you might be able to get
a 
	second
	> desktop printer thrown in for free...but I'm not them.  I have
three
	> licenses that allow me to run two desktop printers and my 7000
at 
	the same
	> time...with good performance.
	> 
	> Robert
	
	
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