Digital BW, The Print

Jerry,

Yep. I am still printing with the Piezo on my 1200. Have everything 
to do the MIS VM except time!

I hope you get a better result with you test of MIS on Torchon. It 
really is a great paper.

I find the fading/warm shifting really disturbing. I put a lot of 
effort into a print to get it just to a perfect tonal balance and it 
is really upsetting to know I can't count on that lasting very long!

Have you tried Hahnemule Structure 150? I think that it is one of the 
best as far as white base; deep blacks (like Torchon) and neutral 
image go. Unfortunately it is not much thicker than binder paper! 
Image color seems stable too. Really frustrating.

The color shift in the EAM base was probably the brighteners fading 
out.

After seeing some VM prints and other people's Piezo prints I am 
going to have to take back me "no green here" statement but it has 
nothing to do with the paper. More on that later.

Martin


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., Jerry Olson 
<jerryolson@r...> wrote:
> Martin,  is this with the piezo inks? I'm going to put one with the 
MIS cold
> tone inks in the south window tomorrow. I'll use the cool curve, 
and we'll
> see how it fares in a few weeks.
> 
> There aren't a lot of papers around that seem not to fade, are 
there? I've
> not seen it with epson Archival yet, so there's one good one. I 
sure hope
> the photo matte holds up. Of course I've also not seen any green 
cast with
> piezo inks either!
> 
> The Epson archival has withstood 3 months in a south window with 
practically
> no change in color using Pauls curve and the MIS variable inkset. 
The
> doctored piezo yellow position ink was also a good candidate, and 
did not
> fade either. The epson paper turned a slight cream color, but the 
inks
> didn't change visually. I suppose an instrument would have seen 
changes.
> 
> Jerry
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Martin Wesley wrote:
> 
> > Speaking of Torchon I have noticed a huge amount of warm up in the
> > prints. It seems to take several days if not weeks and the rather
> > neutral prints I made on it 2 weeks ago are now among the warmest
> > PiezoBW prints I have made.
> >
> > Since I prefer a more neutral tone, Torchon is rapidly sliding 
off my
> > favorite's list.
> >
> > Anyone else seeing this?
> >
> > Martin
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Michael J. Kravit"
> > <kravit@b...> wrote:
> > > Todd wrote:
> > >   >>What I'd like is just a non parchment version of Torchon. Is
> > that so
> > >   >>difficult. ;-) It's bright enough, it's stiff enough, it's
> > blacks are good -
> > >   >>If Hahnemuhle would just take it out of the waffle 
iron.... :*[
> > >
> > >   Now wouldn't that be sweet. I could print with only one 
paper. I
> > would buy a closet full to ensure a lifelong supply!
> > >
> > >   How about it Hannemuhle, Torchon 285 w/o the texture!
> > >
> > >   Mike
> > >
> > >
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> >
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