Digital BW, The Print

Thanks, Paul. 

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Paul Roark <roark.paul@...> wrote:
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> Yes, the UT14-LLC is 30% of UT14 LC or 9% of UT14-C.
> 
> It fills in the holes for a number of potential inksets, including taking
> UT14 to the K3 printer base.  So, with UT14-LLC, the MIS ink selection
> covers a lot of territory.
> 
> As to a distinct UT1430, including profiles, I have not done any more.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
> 
> On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 12:41 PM, mccarvill <mccarvill@...> wrote:
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> > **
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > if MIS will make and sell it, a UT14-LLC
> >
> > MIS is selling it now. Any idea what the ratio of LC to base is? It's not
> > listed on their Web site.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Mark
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Paul Roark
> > <roark.paul@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Joseph Meyerson <lensandcamera@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I just picked up a 1430 on rebate, and before I open it up, I want to
> > know
> > > > what my options are. I'd like to go CIS ...
> > > >
> > >
> > > MIS (http://www.inksupply.com/ut14_black_and_white.cfm and
> > > http://www.inksupply.com/eb6.cfm) and Piezography have been the primary
> > > third party B&W vendors used by people on this forum.
> > >
> > > MIS sells many but not all of the inksets I've used and written up over
> > the
> > > years.
> > >
> > > There are a lot of variables in terms of which system is most likely to
> > fit
> > > your preferences.
> > >
> > > As to the MIS/Inksupply.com offerings, they have Eboni-6 and UT14 inksets
> > > that are aimed at the 1400/1430. My PDFs for those are at
> > > http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Eboni-6.pdf and
> > > http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/UT14.pdf .
> > >
> > > Eboni is matte paper only; UT14 can do it all, but there are other
> > > compromises (no free lunch here).
> > >
> > > Eboni carbon, due to its lightfastness and low cost, plays a large roll
> > in
> > > my printing. Many, including myself, often want more neutrality than 100%
> > > carbon can achieve. Thus, I've put together modifications of the Eboni-6
> > > inkset that achieve this.
> > > See http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Eboni-4-Plus.pdf This inkset can do
> > > outstanding matte prints and good neutral glossy ones.
> > >
> > > I currently have 2 1400s: one with Eboni in it, and one with
> > Epson-Noritsu
> > > dyes in it. I have more profiles for the Eboni based systems than for the
> > > UT14 system. Both are Epson driver compatible. While I use QTR for most
> > > of my printing, having the Epson driver available can be very handy and a
> > > good place to starts.
> > >
> > > The dye approach requires some mixing. See
> > > http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/1400-Claria-Noritsu-2K2LK.pdf For a
> > CIS,
> > > the cost of the Noritsu carts ($186 per 500 ml cart) may be a bit
> > > off-putting. For longevity, it's not bad, but not in the same league as
> > > carbon.
> > >
> > > In my printing, Eboni carbon on matte paper is for longevity and the high
> > > end of fine art. The dyes are for glossy, high-impact prints -- what I
> > > call "eye candy." They make great cards and sell.
> > >
> > > For my college kid I set up an Eboni CIS system. The Eboni CIS system
> > > lasted 4 years. The CIS does need weekly agitation for the best
> > > consistency. (Actually, the CIS was what I call "Carbon-6," Eboni diluted
> > > with generic base. See http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Ink-Mixing.pdf )
> > >
> > > ... pigment, and glossy as well as matte?
> > > >
> > > I'd look carefully at http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Eboni-4-Plus.pdf
> > >
> > > I also
> > > > should note that there are periods I might not print for 2-3 weeks, so
> > if
> > > > that is a deal breaker for pigment, so be it.
> > > >
> > >
> > > The 1400 is very tolerant in this respect. Other factors include the
> > > amount of binder in the ink. The dilute Eboni positions have almost none,
> > > and thus virtually never clog. Eboni MK will clog just like any MK
> > > pigment, but no worse, from what I can tell. The 1430 should be able to
> > > handle the periods you're dealing with.
> > >
> > > The glossy compatible pigments can also clog. Again, I think the 1430
> > > should be able to handle it. I think the HP PK and LK options may be a
> > bit
> > > better in this regard than the MIS UT14C and LC. But I think either will
> > > be fine.
> > >
> > > (p.s.: Willing to spray overcoat if need be.)
> > > >
> > >
> > > The less you have to do the better. I spray the dye prints for display,
> > > but it's toxic and not good for the environment. I no longer have any
> > > interest in supporting glop or multi-pass workflows; too many problems.
> > In
> > > fact, for UT14, I'd not put in the Y position glop but go for a second
> > > UT14-LC (or, if MIS will make and sell it, a UT14-LLC). This would
> > require
> > > some more profiling, however.
> > >
> > > Needless to say, these are my opinions.
> > >
> > > Good luck in your search.
> > >
> > > Paul
> > > www.PaulRoark.com
> > > http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/
> > >
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