For general scenes I agree with you, but creating a custom profile for a product shoot, where for instance, the label color needs to be more than accurate has saved me both time and effort while increasing customer satisfaction. So for this type of work I would say I need a "clinical" output rather than an artistic output for say landscapes. I typically shoot my target at the beginning of the shoot and use a target for the camera profile as well as set the white balance and exposure etc. Then I can globally apply the changes to all of the images. For me, this only applies to print based output (with an custom profile for the printer and paper), and of course a calibrated monitor, all bets are off for web based displays as you are at the mercy of monitors that are not calibrated, and the vagaries of the web browser being used. Mike From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 10:28 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Article on Canon 5D Mark lll and Nikon D800 color --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> , CDTobie <CDTobie@...> wrote: > But the goal of this excercise was to compare the camera color, which requires paring this back to just that, not any of the following steps. I understand, but as much of a believer as I am in color managed workflows, I've never quite gotten the point of building camera-specific profiles, even when dealing with very specific scene illumination conditions for real=world subject matter (fine art repro is another matter). If the camera profiling process still leaves you with global color temperature, lightness and contrast issues, and you may still want to perform selective hue and chroma adjustments, then I don' see any real image editing time savings when choosing a software "camera profiled" image over the manufacturer's "baseline" image calibration. On the other hand, if a camera has a real deficiency in certain colors that are hard to manually correct, then some camera calibration software might be of help, but I don't own any cameras that are so far out they need this kind of additional software intervention prior to beginning my "artistic" edits. They are all "close enough" as a starting point which was my point for your chosen image examples as well. None was so superior at the beginning as to diminish one's time in subsequent image editing steps. David, maybe you can convince me otherwise in good time, but this exercise didn't do it ;-). kind regards, Mark __ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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RE: [Digital BW] Re: Article on Canon 5D Mark lll and Nikon D800 color
2012-08-28 by Mike Kirwan
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