Digital BW, The Print

I've been using both or one or the other. It doesn't matter as far as this
problem is concerned.

On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 11:33 PM, Eric Neilsen <e.neilsen2@...> wrote:

> **
>
>
> Hi res as TIF or DNG?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lew
> Schwartz
> Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 3:44 PM
>
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Grain/aliasing, CoolScan 5000 and VueScan
>
> Yes, I use both and the problem is only with the hi-res scans.
>
> On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 4:35 PM, Eric Neilsen <e.neilsen2@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> > Are you using both and just noticing the problem with the higher res
> > settin?
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lew
> > Schwartz
> > Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 2:39 PM
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@...m
> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Grain/aliasing, CoolScan 5000 and VueScan
> >
> >
> > Scanning at 4000 dpi for a 35mm neg takes about 10 - 15 min using the
> > settings I like. Not practical for a 36 exp roll when a single shoot may
> > involve upwards of 4 rolls, so what I do is to proof everything at a very
> > low res into jpgs ... easy to store, share, etc... but not great for
> > serious
> > prints.
> >
> > On Sun, Aug 7, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Eric Neilsen <e.neilsen2@...> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > > Lew, Why scan to JPEG? That was the biggest question of your posting to
> > me.
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Lew
> > > Schwartz
> > > Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 8:11 AM
> > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > >
> > > Subject: [Digital BW] Grain/aliasing, CoolScan 5000 and VueScan
> > >
> > > I have an increasingly annoying problem in that what appears to be
> grain
> > in
> > > my scans is worse at higher dpi's than it is in the quicky 500 dpi 8
> bit
> > > scans I do as proofs. This is for traditional, 35mm, bw film coming out
> > of
> > > my darkroom.
> > >
> > > From what I've been able to read on the net, this may be due to
> aliasing
> > &
> > > not the actual grain in the film (It's much worse than I'd see in a
> > > traditional, gs print.). Contrary to what I've read, however, it is not
> a
> > > matter of threshold iso/grain size issues, rather it's a continuum,
> > getting
> > > progressively worse as iso/grain increases. It may not be readily
> > > noticeable
> > > at lower iso's, but close inspection reveals it to be there.
> > >
> > > Here are what I believe to be the pertinent the settings I use in
> Vuescan
> > > for my, hopefully, best scans:
> > >
> > > Media: B/W negative
> > > Bits/pixel 16 bit gray
> > > Resolution: 4000 dpi
> > > Number of samples: 8
> > > Fine mode: Yes (checked)
> > > Multi Exposure: Yes (checked)
> > >
> > > I've been playing, unsuccessfully, with checking/unchecking, no of
> > samples
> > > etc... Medium size jpg's seem to produce better scans than the maxed
> out
> > > settings above, but of course, they won't work for larger prints going
> > > forward.
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