Paul, Just to be clear when you describe the following issue - that's using the Epson driver - correct ? Txs Mike >>There is at least one possibly open issue with respect to the recommended Eboni-6 ratios in K3 printers. With the original Carb-6 mix, the C-position was 33%, then the M/LK was 16.5%. If no PS curve was used to partition the inks, there was some posterization in the deep shadows. The high gray substitution of the K3 printers with an input of an R=G=B grayscale file caused the relatively lighter, original Carb-6 16% LK to be too light relative to the darker 33% C-position ink. I believe this is not a problem with the standard Eboni/Carbon-6 setup (using 18% for LK and 30% for C), but it's something to keep an eye on. If it is a problem, then the LK needs to be the 30% ink, not the 18% ink On 10 March 2011 17:05, Paul <roark.paul@...> wrote: > > > "Gerd" <lichtwert@...> wrote: > > > > ... > > > what are the specific/explicit dilutions for a carbon-6 mixing for an > eight-color printer like the R2880? I would appreciate a detailed listing > for each color related to volume. > > I have never actually set up a 2880. Even with my 7800 I have non-Eboni > inks in 3 positions. So, the "perfect" setup for an 8-ink printer involves > some uncertainty. However, start with what I recommend in the PDFs on the > subject. > > Michael King <drmrking@...> wrote: > > > > ... > > > If you are making your own profile doesn't matter which > > dilution goes in which channel. > > This is true if one makes QuadToneRip profiles. This is what I use to print > with my 7800. > > However, I most often like to set up a printer with an ink arrangement that > is compatible with the Epson driver. I think this lowers the entry barriers > for new users. If they can load the inkset, hit the Print button in PS and > get an OK print, the positive feedback avoids a lot of headaches (both for > them and me). > > So, to get down the learning curve with the least amount of pain, I > recommend new people start with an inkset that is compatible with the Epson > driver, then learn simple linearization so that QTR's Create ICC-RGB can be > used to make ICCs, and finally, learn the full QTR rip approach, which > allows one freedom from the Epson driver constraints. > > Back to step one -- the Epson driver compatible Eboni-6 arrangement for an > Epson k3 class printer: page 2 of > http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Eboni-6.pdf has the recommended setup. > > For Carbon-6 I recommend the same mixing ratios as for Eboni-6. See > http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/Carbon-6.pdf > > Note that I initially used a different mixing ratio for Carbon-6 to > facilitate mixing with no scales. This ran into several problems. Stick to > the 100, 30, 18, 9, 6, 2% standard Eboni/Carbon-6 ratios. Once the base is > mixed the specific gravities are close enough to use the same ratios for > both volume and weight mixing. > > For the base, the only ingredient you need to adjust for is the glycerol -- > heavy at a specific gravity of about 1.26. So, the volume would be the > weight percentage divided by this, with water being the remainder -- taking > up the amount of the difference. > > There is at least one possibly open issue with respect to the recommended > Eboni-6 ratios in K3 printers. With the original Carb-6 mix, the C-position > was 33%, then the M/LK was 16.5%. If no PS curve was used to partition the > inks, there was some posterization in the deep shadows. The high gray > substitution of the K3 printers with an input of an R=G=B grayscale file > caused the relatively lighter, original Carb-6 16% LK to be too light > relative to the darker 33% C-position ink. I believe this is not a problem > with the standard Eboni/Carbon-6 setup (using 18% for LK and 30% for C), but > it's something to keep an eye on. If it is a problem, then the LK needs to > be the 30% ink, not the 18% ink. > > Hope this helps. > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Re: [Digital BW] Carbon-6 for eight-color-printer (R2880)
2011-03-12 by Michael King
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