I'd add, just from the standpoint of other inkset/qtr work, that it will not do a single "toner" ink in parallel with a multi part k setup, and have it print directly from a grayscale file, like qtr users may be accustomed to, that don't use Jon's K4/6/7 monocrhrome setups. You can set up an ink as a spot channel, in addition to a multiK channel, in an SP environment, and it is individually linearized, which is great, but you have to add a spot channel to your file and setup up its content before sending off to the RIP. There are a few other complications, but that's the idea. So simple UC 3 part mono + 2 part toner setups like QTR comes with are not a simple RIP setup. Tyler --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "piezobw" <jon@...> wrote: > > Yes, I think that what you are missing is how SP does monochrome - and are instead trying to make it a glorified QTR system or a QTR with layout - which it is neither. > > SP does not use "curves". It has an automatic profiler for up to seven shades of ink. You make a group of ink shades by specifying which ink slot is which shade, or / and which combination of ink slots is a shade. Then you print out a target and measure - and the internal profiler organizes a "profile" it calls a "linearization". > > So with SP - ALL INK POSSIBILITIES ARE OPEN, and only limited by your imagination. But only when you conceive of a group of ink shades being automatically profiles into a smooth tonal response. > > You can create only one linearization at a time and use only one. You can not have a combination of linearizations printing at one time. > > Let's say you used seven ink shades (like Piezography K7). SP can create a profile. > > or > > produce a quad black profile > or a profile based upon blending of inks (two sets of quads?) > or to split tone between two sets of quads, etc.... > > You can make a monochromatic linearization on from 2 to 7 shades of ink. The process is the same. Organizing the shades by ink slot, printing the target, measuring the target. Everything occurring within the standard SP software - your needing only an instrument such as an Eye One. > > Hope that clarifies, > > Jon Cone > Piezography > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "horstenj" <j.h.j.h@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "piezobw" <jon@> wrote: > > > > > > You only need GPS with color inks. It is a color ICC profiler. > > > > > > I can only make profiles that are QTR compatible but not editable. I can't make profiles for StudioPrint - but I can make individual ink channels that take the place of profiles and I can run SP in up to 8 individual channels. > > > > > > But SP has a linearization function for up to seven shades of ink. They supported Piezography until Epson pulled the plug on that (X880 printers last supported Piezo models.) > > > > > > There are a total of seven shades of monochromatic ink that can be combined into a "profile". It is possible to combine up to three individual inks into one "shade" - its rich in terms of b&w. > > > > > > > Thanks again Jon, > > > > Based on your comments I looked again to the studioprint options. To clarify: there seems to be NO possibility to import user curves per ink channel like one can in QTR. > > > > If that would be possible, one could make an own profiler/curve editing tool and all possible ink strategies would be open. But again, that seems not te be the case, right? Or am I missing something (which I hope)? > > > > Joost > > >
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Re: Custom BW ink sets with StudioPrint
2010-06-28 by tboleyyh
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