Korg DW8000, Mono/Poly, MS-20...

I'm hearing an audio "pop" or "click" on certain patches when I play, especially in the lower keys. It doesn't happen all the time, but happens enough to be annoying. I just got my DW8000 a day or so ago, and I'm thinking I want to get rid of it right away unless I can find an answer.

I was going to use it for some recording, but that noise in the audio prohibits that. Any advice before I put it back on Craigslist where I found it?

Thank you,

Eric

I have the same problem, any ideas yet?

--- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, "Eric" <jester_123@...> wrote:
>
> I'm hearing an audio "pop" or "click" on certain patches when I play, especially in the lower keys. It doesn't happen all the time, but happens enough to be annoying. I just got my DW8000 a day or so ago, and I'm thinking I want to get rid of it right away unless I can find an answer.
>
> I was going to use it for some recording, but that noise in the audio prohibits that. Any advice before I put it back on Craigslist where I found it?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Eric
>

It happens when a key is pressed in the middle of a waveform cycle. I.E. the wave is not at zero amplitude. That causes an audible click. The fix is to raise the attack a bit.

Eric

--- On Fri, 1/22/10, Tomhikon <got_hatchet@...> wrote:

From: Tomhikon <got_hatchet@...>
Subject: [DW8000] Re: annoying audio pop when keys pressed DW8000
To: DW8000@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 1:10 PM

 

I have the same problem, any ideas yet?

--- In DW8000@yahoogroups. com, "Eric" <jester_123@ ...> wrote:
>
> I'm hearing an audio "pop" or "click" on certain patches when I play, especially in the lower keys. It doesn't happen all the time, but happens enough to be annoying. I just got my DW8000 a day or so ago, and I'm thinking I want to get rid of it right away unless I can find an answer.
>
> I was going to use it for some recording, but that noise in the audio prohibits that. Any advice before I put it back on Craigslist where I found it?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Eric
>

Ah so there is no fix then, Korg should have corrected that.
I usually mask it with cutoff and eg, cutoff doesnt like it below 16 on mine.
I had a juno 106 was the same way it was annoying.

--- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, Eric Hall <jester_123@...> wrote:
>
> It happens when a key is pressed in the middle of a waveform cycle. I.E. the wave is not at zero amplitude. That causes an audible click. The fix is to raise the attack a bit.
>
> Eric
>
> --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Tomhikon <got_hatchet@...> wrote:
>
> From: Tomhikon <got_hatchet@...>
> Subject: [DW8000] Re: annoying audio pop when keys pressed DW8000
> To: DW8000@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 1:10 PM
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> --- In DW8000@yahoogroups. com, "Eric" <jester_123@ ...> wrote:
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> > I'm hearing an audio "pop" or "click" on certain patches when I play, especially in the lower keys. It doesn't happen all the time, but happens enough to be annoying. I just got my DW8000 a day or so ago, and I'm thinking I want to get rid of it right away unless I can find an answer.
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> > I was going to use it for some recording, but that noise in the audio prohibits that. Any advice before I put it back on Craigslist where I found it?
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It's not a bug, just a fact of life when you have fast envelopes. I'm actually surprised the DW's envelopes are fast enough for you to notice it.

What you are hearing is the jump from 0 voltage to wherever the waveform is started, which often has the transient harmonics of the leading edge of a square wave. You may also be hearing some noise from the filter "popping" open.

This is a common newbie complaint on the Waldorf synthesizer list (they use complex digital waveforms). Just add time to your attack/decay envelope to make it go away.

Some synth manufacturers "fixed" this by building in this extra attack time, but most others leave this for you to decide as the sound-designer.

Some analog filter chips (Curtis) are slow enough that you'd never notice. -pc

--- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, "Tomhikon" <got_hatchet@...> wrote:
>
> Ah so there is no fix then, Korg should have corrected that.
> I usually mask it with cutoff and eg, cutoff doesnt like it below 16 on mine.
> I had a juno 106 was the same way it was annoying.
>
> --- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, Eric Hall <jester_123@> wrote:
> >
> > It happens when a key is pressed in the middle of a waveform cycle. I.E. the wave is not at zero amplitude. That causes an audible click. The fix is to raise the attack a bit.
> >
> > Eric
> >
> > --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Tomhikon <got_hatchet@> wrote:
> >
> > From: Tomhikon <got_hatchet@>
> > Subject: [DW8000] Re: annoying audio pop when keys pressed DW8000
> > To: DW8000@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 1:10 PM
> >

> > I have the same problem, any ideas yet?
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In DW8000@yahoogroups. com, "Eric" <jester_123@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I'm hearing an audio "pop" or "click" on certain patches when I play, especially in the lower keys. It doesn't happen all the time, but happens enough to be annoying. I just got my DW8000 a day or so ago, and I'm thinking I want to get rid of it right away unless I can find an answer.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I was going to use it for some recording, but that noise in the audio prohibits that. Any advice before I put it back on Craigslist where I found it?
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Thank you,
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Eric
> >
> > >
> >
>

Makes sense, I'm getting use to it already. I guess I was worried about the korg curse. I'll always keep my wavestation but after selling an er1 and microkorg I got concerned the dw might be flubbed but I think I'll be keeping this one too.
Thanks

--- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, "PC" <paul@...> wrote:
>
> It's not a bug, just a fact of life when you have fast envelopes. I'm actually surprised the DW's envelopes are fast enough for you to notice it.
>
> What you are hearing is the jump from 0 voltage to wherever the waveform is started, which often has the transient harmonics of the leading edge of a square wave. You may also be hearing some noise from the filter "popping" open.
>
> This is a common newbie complaint on the Waldorf synthesizer list (they use complex digital waveforms). Just add time to your attack/decay envelope to make it go away.
>
> Some synth manufacturers "fixed" this by building in this extra attack time, but most others leave this for you to decide as the sound-designer.
>
> Some analog filter chips (Curtis) are slow enough that you'd never notice. -pc
>
>
> --- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, "Tomhikon" <got_hatchet@> wrote:
> >
> > Ah so there is no fix then, Korg should have corrected that.
> > I usually mask it with cutoff and eg, cutoff doesnt like it below 16 on mine.
> > I had a juno 106 was the same way it was annoying.
> >
> > --- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, Eric Hall <jester_123@> wrote:
> > >
> > > It happens when a key is pressed in the middle of a waveform cycle. I.E. the wave is not at zero amplitude. That causes an audible click. The fix is to raise the attack a bit.
> > >
> > > Eric
> > >
> > > --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Tomhikon <got_hatchet@> wrote:
> > >
> > > From: Tomhikon <got_hatchet@>
> > > Subject: [DW8000] Re: annoying audio pop when keys pressed DW8000
> > > To: DW8000@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 1:10 PM
> > >
>
> > > I have the same problem, any ideas yet?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In DW8000@yahoogroups. com, "Eric" <jester_123@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > I'm hearing an audio "pop" or "click" on certain patches when I play, especially in the lower keys. It doesn't happen all the time, but happens enough to be annoying. I just got my DW8000 a day or so ago, and I'm thinking I want to get rid of it right away unless I can find an answer.
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > I was going to use it for some recording, but that noise in the audio prohibits that. Any advice before I put it back on Craigslist where I found it?
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Thank you,
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > > Eric
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

You know I jumped the gun earlier this synth is crap, I can imagine how nice it might sound but there is obviously something wrong with mine. It's completely unusable with that static/popping going on.
Do you think I should get my tech to perform the test procedures on it from the service manual, I'm thinking mainly the VCA test?
Hell maybe all of them. Do you think it would help?
Isn't ebay lovely...

--- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, "Tomhikon" <got_hatchet@...> wrote:
>
> Makes sense, I'm getting use to it already. I guess I was worried about the korg curse. I'll always keep my wavestation but after selling an er1 and microkorg I got concerned the dw might be flubbed but I think I'll be keeping this one too.
> Thanks
>
> --- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, "PC" <paul@> wrote:
> >
> > It's not a bug, just a fact of life when you have fast envelopes. I'm actually surprised the DW's envelopes are fast enough for you to notice it.
> >
> > What you are hearing is the jump from 0 voltage to wherever the waveform is started, which often has the transient harmonics of the leading edge of a square wave. You may also be hearing some noise from the filter "popping" open.
> >
> > This is a common newbie complaint on the Waldorf synthesizer list (they use complex digital waveforms). Just add time to your attack/decay envelope to make it go away.
> >
> > Some synth manufacturers "fixed" this by building in this extra attack time, but most others leave this for you to decide as the sound-designer.
> >
> > Some analog filter chips (Curtis) are slow enough that you'd never notice. -pc
> >
> >
> > --- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, "Tomhikon" <got_hatchet@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ah so there is no fix then, Korg should have corrected that.
> > > I usually mask it with cutoff and eg, cutoff doesnt like it below 16 on mine.
> > > I had a juno 106 was the same way it was annoying.
> > >
> > > --- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, Eric Hall <jester_123@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It happens when a key is pressed in the middle of a waveform cycle. I.E. the wave is not at zero amplitude. That causes an audible click. The fix is to raise the attack a bit.
> > > >
> > > > Eric
> > > >
> > > > --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Tomhikon <got_hatchet@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > From: Tomhikon <got_hatchet@>
> > > > Subject: [DW8000] Re: annoying audio pop when keys pressed DW8000
> > > > To: DW8000@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 1:10 PM
> > > >
> >
> > > > I have the same problem, any ideas yet?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In DW8000@yahoogroups. com, "Eric" <jester_123@ ...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I'm hearing an audio "pop" or "click" on certain patches when I play, especially in the lower keys. It doesn't happen all the time, but happens enough to be annoying. I just got my DW8000 a day or so ago, and I'm thinking I want to get rid of it right away unless I can find an answer.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > I was going to use it for some recording, but that noise in the audio prohibits that. Any advice before I put it back on Craigslist where I found it?
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Thank you,
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Eric
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Yeah "sounds" like you might have a hardware issue... I mean, I really never noticed these kinds of problems with either my DW-8000 (which I no longer have) or either of my DW-6000s... 80s synths are noisy to be sure, but not to an unmusical extent. At least they are cheap to replace! -pc

--- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, "Tomhikon" <got_hatchet@...> wrote:
>
> You know I jumped the gun earlier this synth is crap, I can imagine how nice it might sound but there is obviously something wrong with mine. It's completely unusable with that static/popping going on.
> Do you think I should get my tech to perform the test procedures on it from the service manual, I'm thinking mainly the VCA test?
> Hell maybe all of them. Do you think it would help?
> Isn't ebay lovely...
>
> --- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, "Tomhikon" <got_hatchet@> wrote:
> >
> > Makes sense, I'm getting use to it already. I guess I was worried about the korg curse. I'll always keep my wavestation but after selling an er1 and microkorg I got concerned the dw might be flubbed but I think I'll be keeping this one too.
> > Thanks
> >
> > --- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, "PC" <paul@> wrote:
> > >
> > > It's not a bug, just a fact of life when you have fast envelopes. I'm actually surprised the DW's envelopes are fast enough for you to notice it.
> > >
> > > What you are hearing is the jump from 0 voltage to wherever the waveform is started, which often has the transient harmonics of the leading edge of a square wave. You may also be hearing some noise from the filter "popping" open.
> > >
> > > This is a common newbie complaint on the Waldorf synthesizer list (they use complex digital waveforms). Just add time to your attack/decay envelope to make it go away.
> > >
> > > Some synth manufacturers "fixed" this by building in this extra attack time, but most others leave this for you to decide as the sound-designer.
> > >
> > > Some analog filter chips (Curtis) are slow enough that you'd never notice. -pc
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, "Tomhikon" <got_hatchet@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ah so there is no fix then, Korg should have corrected that.
> > > > I usually mask it with cutoff and eg, cutoff doesnt like it below 16 on mine.
> > > > I had a juno 106 was the same way it was annoying.
> > > >
> > > > --- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, Eric Hall <jester_123@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > It happens when a key is pressed in the middle of a waveform cycle. I.E. the wave is not at zero amplitude. That causes an audible click. The fix is to raise the attack a bit.
> > > > >
> > > > > Eric
> > > > >
> > > > > --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Tomhikon <got_hatchet@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > From: Tomhikon <got_hatchet@>
> > > > > Subject: [DW8000] Re: annoying audio pop when keys pressed DW8000
> > > > > To: DW8000@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 1:10 PM
> > > > >
> > >
> > > > > I have the same problem, any ideas yet?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In DW8000@yahoogroups. com, "Eric" <jester_123@ ...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I'm hearing an audio "pop" or "click" on certain patches when I play, especially in the lower keys. It doesn't happen all the time, but happens enough to be annoying. I just got my DW8000 a day or so ago, and I'm thinking I want to get rid of it right away unless I can find an answer.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > I was going to use it for some recording, but that noise in the audio prohibits that. Any advice before I put it back on Craigslist where I found it?
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you,
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Eric
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

So does anyone think it may be a power supply issue? a chip issue? I can send audio clips to someone that may know if you like.
I'm wondering if I should shell out money to try and get it fixed or sell it and buy another one.
Thanks

--- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, "PC" <paul@...> wrote:
>
> Yeah "sounds" like you might have a hardware issue... I mean, I really never noticed these kinds of problems with either my DW-8000 (which I no longer have) or either of my DW-6000s... 80s synths are noisy to be sure, but not to an unmusical extent. At least they are cheap to replace! -pc
>
> --- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, "Tomhikon" <got_hatchet@> wrote:
> >
> > You know I jumped the gun earlier this synth is crap, I can imagine how nice it might sound but there is obviously something wrong with mine. It's completely unusable with that static/popping going on.
> > Do you think I should get my tech to perform the test procedures on it from the service manual, I'm thinking mainly the VCA test?
> > Hell maybe all of them. Do you think it would help?
> > Isn't ebay lovely...
> >
> > --- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, "Tomhikon" <got_hatchet@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Makes sense, I'm getting use to it already. I guess I was worried about the korg curse. I'll always keep my wavestation but after selling an er1 and microkorg I got concerned the dw might be flubbed but I think I'll be keeping this one too.
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > --- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, "PC" <paul@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > It's not a bug, just a fact of life when you have fast envelopes. I'm actually surprised the DW's envelopes are fast enough for you to notice it.
> > > >
> > > > What you are hearing is the jump from 0 voltage to wherever the waveform is started, which often has the transient harmonics of the leading edge of a square wave. You may also be hearing some noise from the filter "popping" open.
> > > >
> > > > This is a common newbie complaint on the Waldorf synthesizer list (they use complex digital waveforms). Just add time to your attack/decay envelope to make it go away.
> > > >
> > > > Some synth manufacturers "fixed" this by building in this extra attack time, but most others leave this for you to decide as the sound-designer.
> > > >
> > > > Some analog filter chips (Curtis) are slow enough that you'd never notice. -pc
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, "Tomhikon" <got_hatchet@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Ah so there is no fix then, Korg should have corrected that.
> > > > > I usually mask it with cutoff and eg, cutoff doesnt like it below 16 on mine.
> > > > > I had a juno 106 was the same way it was annoying.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, Eric Hall <jester_123@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It happens when a key is pressed in the middle of a waveform cycle. I.E. the wave is not at zero amplitude. That causes an audible click. The fix is to raise the attack a bit.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Eric
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- On Fri, 1/22/10, Tomhikon <got_hatchet@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > From: Tomhikon <got_hatchet@>
> > > > > > Subject: [DW8000] Re: annoying audio pop when keys pressed DW8000
> > > > > > To: DW8000@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Date: Friday, January 22, 2010, 1:10 PM
> > > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > I have the same problem, any ideas yet?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In DW8000@yahoogroups. com, "Eric" <jester_123@ ...> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm hearing an audio "pop" or "click" on certain patches when I play, especially in the lower keys. It doesn't happen all the time, but happens enough to be annoying. I just got my DW8000 a day or so ago, and I'm thinking I want to get rid of it right away unless I can find an answer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I was going to use it for some recording, but that noise in the audio prohibits that. Any advice before I put it back on Craigslist where I found it?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Eric
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Hello,

I think you could first isolate the problem in a few steps:

1 - play the DW from an other device through midi
- No more pop : check the keyboard for bad connections or spilled soda traces
- Still poping : go to step 2

2 - play an auto-arpegio with no midi cable plugged:
- No more pop : check the midi board for ground leaks
- Still poping : go to step 3

3 - from schematics, pick-up the audio before the built-in pre-amp and connect it to guitar or microphone pre-amp
- No more pop : check the power transistors from the pre-amp
- Still poping : go to step 4

4 - play sounds without any delay effect (all parameters to zero)
- No more pop : check the built-in effect board (or use only external effect)
- Still popping : go to step 5

5 - now you are sure it comes from synthesis stage. Maybe you can locate some variable resistor that is set in a way that puts to much strain on the VCA or the VCF. Play a sound with slow VCA attack and fast VCF or the opposite. Test the resonance amount...etc. An electronic specialist would at this point check each transistor, capacitor and resistor while powered off. Some component can be simply dead. But this is getting too far for me...

Good luck
Bernard

--- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, "Tomhikon" <got_hatchet@...> wrote:
>
> So does anyone think it may be a power supply issue? a chip issue? I can send audio clips to someone that may know if you like.
> I'm wondering if I should shell out money to try and get it fixed or sell it and buy another one.
> Thanks

Well I'm not sure how to go about testing option 3, but I tried all the others and it still pops.
I tired the slow filter,fast vca, it seems the vca area is the culprit.
Does it sound worth servicing do you think or should I rid of it?
Thanks

--- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, "bernard.escaillas" <bernard@...> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I think you could first isolate the problem in a few steps:
>
> 1 - play the DW from an other device through midi
> - No more pop : check the keyboard for bad connections or spilled soda traces
> - Still poping : go to step 2
>
> 2 - play an auto-arpegio with no midi cable plugged:
> - No more pop : check the midi board for ground leaks
> - Still poping : go to step 3
>
> 3 - from schematics, pick-up the audio before the built-in pre-amp and connect it to guitar or microphone pre-amp
> - No more pop : check the power transistors from the pre-amp
> - Still poping : go to step 4
>
> 4 - play sounds without any delay effect (all parameters to zero)
> - No more pop : check the built-in effect board (or use only external effect)
> - Still popping : go to step 5
>
> 5 - now you are sure it comes from synthesis stage. Maybe you can locate some variable resistor that is set in a way that puts to much strain on the VCA or the VCF. Play a sound with slow VCA attack and fast VCF or the opposite. Test the resonance amount...etc. An electronic specialist would at this point check each transistor, capacitor and resistor while powered off. Some component can be simply dead. But this is getting too far for me...
>
> Good luck
> Bernard
>
> --- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, "Tomhikon" <got_hatchet@> wrote:
> >
> > So does anyone think it may be a power supply issue? a chip issue? I can send audio clips to someone that may know if you like.
> > I'm wondering if I should shell out money to try and get it fixed or sell it and buy another one.
> > Thanks
>

If the pop occurs on any of the eight voices, the problem probably lies at the point where the 8 signals are summed before the delay board, or after the delay board where the signal is amplified.

But if your not up to soldering and testing, you should probably sell your DW as it is (for spare parts or to a experienced tech guy) and make up the difference to buy a working one. The difference will be cheaper than paying a tech to just open it and read the service manual...

--- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, "Tomhikon" <got_hatchet@...> wrote:
>
> Well I'm not sure how to go about testing option 3, but I tried all the others and it still pops.
> I tired the slow filter,fast vca, it seems the vca area is the culprit.
> Does it sound worth servicing do you think or should I rid of it?
> Thanks

Maybe it was my patch cord because I don't notice it anymore.
Thanks

--- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, "bernard.escaillas" <bernard@...> wrote:
>
> If the pop occurs on any of the eight voices, the problem probably lies at the point where the 8 signals are summed before the delay board, or after the delay board where the signal is amplified.
>
> But if your not up to soldering and testing, you should probably sell your DW as it is (for spare parts or to a experienced tech guy) and make up the difference to buy a working one. The difference will be cheaper than paying a tech to just open it and read the service manual...
>
>
>
>
> --- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, "Tomhikon" <got_hatchet@> wrote:
> >
> > Well I'm not sure how to go about testing option 3, but I tried all the others and it still pops.
> > I tired the slow filter,fast vca, it seems the vca area is the culprit.
> > Does it sound worth servicing do you think or should I rid of it?
> > Thanks
>

Maybe it was a cable I didn't notice it again earlier today.
Thanks

--- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, "bernard.escaillas" <bernard@...> wrote:
>
> If the pop occurs on any of the eight voices, the problem probably lies at the point where the 8 signals are summed before the delay board, or after the delay board where the signal is amplified.
>
> But if your not up to soldering and testing, you should probably sell your DW as it is (for spare parts or to a experienced tech guy) and make up the difference to buy a working one. The difference will be cheaper than paying a tech to just open it and read the service manual...
>
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> --- In DW8000@yahoogroups.com, "Tomhikon" <got_hatchet@> wrote:
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> > Well I'm not sure how to go about testing option 3, but I tried all the others and it still pops.
> > I tired the slow filter,fast vca, it seems the vca area is the culprit.
> > Does it sound worth servicing do you think or should I rid of it?
> > Thanks
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Dear 8000-Friends

does anyone have the sound files of the musitronics expansion? It's
cassette interface format.

thanx in advance!


Ronald Christoph

I don't believe the Musitronics/Angel City Turbo board came with
patches. I'm pretty sure mine didn't come with any back when I bought
mine. Musitronics still advertises the DW8000 upgrade and it doesn't
say anything about coming with patches.

Can anyone confirm whether it does or does not come with new patches?

The MEX-8000 (memory-expander unit) came with 4 banks of patches, which
are all posted as sysex files at http://dw8000.com/downloads.html

-Mark

On 4/6/10 7:28 AM, Ronald Christoph wrote:
> Dear 8000-Friends
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> does anyone have the sound files of the musitronics expansion? It's
> cassette interface format.
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> thanx in advance!
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> Ronald Christoph
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