Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

HI....my first post...It feels good to have you all out there...but I 
am hoping someone has an answer to a problem I am having....It seems 
that as of late, my dual zone snare pad has the flu....What I mean 
is, the rim sensor? is not triggering at times....the center trigger 
seems fine...I've messed around a litte with sensitivity on the 
pad,and swapped stereo cords, but no real difference......any 
ideas? ...and again thanks for any and all help....just getting 
started,so I want to say HI from down east Maine...

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "nugeman2004" <kbhammerken@g...> 
wrote:
> HI....my first post...It feels good to have you all out there...but 
I 
> am hoping someone has an answer to a problem I am having....It 
seems 
> that as of late, my dual zone snare pad has the flu....What I mean 
> is, the rim sensor? is not triggering at times....the center 
trigger 
> seems fine...I've messed around a litte with sensitivity on the 
> pad,and swapped stereo cords, but no real difference......any 
> ideas? ...and again thanks for any and all help....just getting 
> started,so I want to say HI from down east Maine...

Hi kb,

Welcome to the group. I'm in Massachusetts; sometimes we even get the 
same weather. I'll leave this question to those with similar pads 
and/or troubles. But how old is the pad?  If it's a few years old, 
it's possible that the rim switch is shot. I imagine that the snare 
is well out of warranty; you could open it up and see if anything 
gives. Take a look first at OGD's pictures of the TP's insides in the 
Photos section for a guide to the layout. If everything was working 
fine for a while until now, chances are that you won't find a 
solution in the module's settings. Let's see what other people 
suggest.

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "nugeman2004" <kbhammerken@g...> 
> wrote:
> > HI....my first post...It feels good to have you all out there...but 
> I 
> > am hoping someone has an answer to a problem I am having....It 
> seems 
> > that as of late, my dual zone snare pad has the flu....What I mean 
> > is, the rim sensor? is not triggering at times....the center 
> trigger 
> > seems fine...I've messed around a litte with sensitivity on the 
> > pad,and swapped stereo cords, but no real difference......any 
> > ideas? ...and again thanks for any and all help....just getting 
> > started,so I want to say HI from down east Maine...
> 
> Hi kb,
> 
> Welcome to the group. I'm in Massachusetts; sometimes we even get the 
> same weather. I'll leave this question to those with similar pads 
> and/or troubles. But how old is the pad?  If it's a few years old, 
> it's possible that the rim switch is shot. I imagine that the snare 
> is well out of warranty; you could open it up and see if anything 
> gives. Take a look first at OGD's pictures of the TP's insides in the 
> Photos section for a guide to the layout. If everything was working 
> fine for a while until now, chances are that you won't find a 
> solution in the module's settings. Let's see what other people 
> suggest.
> 
> Ed

If the rim switch was shot, wouldn't you still get a sound, but the
sound of the centre rather than the rim?  Maybe that is what you are
getting, but if you are getting a feable rim sound, that suggests
something to do with rim settings.  You could try a standard trigger
setting and a standard drum kit to see if it works?

Keith.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Keith" <keith@k...> wrote:
> If the rim switch was shot, wouldn't you still get a sound, but the
> sound of the centre rather than the rim?  Maybe that is what you are
> getting, but if you are getting a feable rim sound, that suggests
> something to do with rim settings.  You could try a standard trigger
> setting and a standard drum kit to see if it works?

Keith,

What you say makes sense, except that one of the anomalies of these 
so-called "stereo" pads is, or at least used to be, that sometimes 
hitting in the vicinity of the rim switch didn't always result in a 
sound--either that of the head or of the rim. From what I recall, the 
lapse wasn't just a function of the trigger settings. I could be 
wrong. Any ideas, everyone?

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Keith" <keith@k...> wrote:
> > If the rim switch was shot, wouldn't you still get a sound, but 
the
> > sound of the centre rather than the rim?  Maybe that is what you 
are
> > getting, but if you are getting a feable rim sound, that suggests
> > something to do with rim settings.  You could try a standard 
trigger
> > setting and a standard drum kit to see if it works?
> 
> Keith,
> 
> What you say makes sense, except that one of the anomalies of these 
> so-called "stereo" pads is, or at least used to be, that sometimes 
> hitting in the vicinity of the rim switch didn't always result in a 
> sound--either that of the head or of the rim. From what I recall, 
the 
> lapse wasn't just a function of the trigger settings. I could be 
> wrong. Any ideas, everyone?
> 
> Ed

Hi....perhaps I should clarify, the rim hits were, for the most 
part,always consistent.I have used the kit for about a year,and have 
played several gigs, as well as a lot of recording time. It seems 
that if I play a busy passage, the center,which I have set up to be a 
different,similar voice ,it will react at most times ok. But if I do 
the same on the rim,such as a quick burst of single hits, it will 
almost always only respond to half(or less) of the contact.I will 
tell you that I am quite certain that the center voice is not 
falsing, and that I do strike it consistently and solidly. I thought 
others may have had problems with the dual zone snare pad, or could 
advise some settings/adjustments I could experiment with....The kits 
that I use are all set up from scratch from voices , so I can cover 8-
10 different live sounding kits during a night's performance...I have 
not really spent alot of time with the preset kits, so I cannot 
answer wether they react the same way, but what little I have tried 
lately , they have ....thanks for any and all input...and hi to Ed, 
the mass dude helping! I'm just over the line from portsmouth nh

I've got the same problem with my rim shots. They are not 
consistent. And it doesn't sound too good when I am using a "brush" 
snare and I want a brush slap on every upbeat via the rim.  However 
I feel sure that trading up the TP80S to the newest model 2-zone pad 
will help.

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "nugeman2004" <kbhammerken@g...> 
wrote:
> HI....my first post...It feels good to have you all out 
there...but I 
> am hoping someone has an answer to a problem I am having....It 
seems 
> that as of late, my dual zone snare pad has the flu....What I mean 
> is, the rim sensor? is not triggering at times....the center 
trigger 

> seems fine...I've messed around a litte with sensitivity on the 
> pad,and swapped stereo cords, but no real difference......any 
> ideas? ...and again thanks for any and all help....just getting 
> started,so I want to say HI from down east Maine...