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Input 9/10

Input 9/10

2004-01-23 by smcevenue

First, an aside.  I have recently resumed drumming after a 34 year 
hiatus.  There is a definite theme developing here.  Unwittingly, I 
have joined a group that has at least one  thread other than Yamaha 
DTX running through it.  Advanced years would be it.  

I think that thread goes to the often posed questioned concerning 
the issues that distinguish accoustic and electronic drums. I don't 
know if others have already confronted this but how about the weight 
of acoustic equipment compared with the weight of electronic kits.  
The difference really matters to me.  I cannot worry much about the 
the realism, the relative dynamics etc. of a kit that I cannot 
carry.  I wonder if the American Medical Association has statistics 
on the relative likelihood of having a coronary if you play (and 
carry around) e-drums or acoustic drums.  But I digress ...  

I have recently added a PCY65s and a TP65 to the standard DTXpressII 
kit.  I linked the PCY65 trigger from the base kit along with the 
new TP65 trigger to input 9/10 using the 2 monos to 1 stereo 
adapter.  I programmed the two inputs as a ride cymbal and as a Tom 
4 in this instance, respectively.  Both triggers send out the same 
voice even though I programmed 2 different voices.  The rest of the 
kit is working as programmed.

Perhaps, just perhaps, I have erred in some way.  Anybody have some 
light to shed?

Sean

Re: Input 9/10

2004-01-23 by emf

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "smcevenue" <seann@s...> wrote:

Hi Sean,

Nice to have you with us.

> First, an aside.  I have recently resumed drumming after a 34 year 
> hiatus.  There is a definite theme developing here.  Unwittingly, I 
> have joined a group that has at least one  thread other than Yamaha 
> DTX running through it.  Advanced years would be it. 

From the evidence given, you must be anywhere from 35 to, say, 150 
years old. Am I close? 

 
> I don't know if others have already confronted this but how about 
the weight 
> of acoustic equipment compared with the weight of electronic kits.  
> The difference really matters to me.  I cannot worry much about the 
> the realism, the relative dynamics etc. of a kit that I cannot 
> carry.  I wonder if the American Medical Association has statistics 
> on the relative likelihood of having a coronary if you play (and 
> carry around) e-drums or acoustic drums.  

One small town in Scotland has practiced the venerable sport of 
drumkit tossing for centuries.  Until recently, the locals had only 
acoustic kits to throw; the distances were not good. Now that the 
young bucks have begun to use e-kits, the old records are falling 
faster than kilts in a . . . well, you get the idea. The 
traditionalists are grumbling about it, but one positive development 
is that heart attacks have largely become a thing of the past. I 
think there's a lesson in there somewhere. 
 
> I have recently added a PCY65s and a TP65 to the standard 
DTXpressII 
> kit.  I linked the PCY65 trigger from the base kit along with the 
> new TP65 trigger to input 9/10 using the 2 monos to 1 stereo 
> adapter.  I programmed the two inputs as a ride cymbal and as a Tom 
> 4 in this instance, respectively.  Both triggers send out the same 
> voice even though I programmed 2 different voices.  The rest of the 
> kit is working as programmed.

I'm betting that your splitter is not of the TRS variety at all but a 
stereo to two stereos. Check the plugs at the "Y" end; two rings mean 
stereo.  

Ed

Re: [DTXpress] Re: Input 9/10

2004-01-23 by Sean McEvenue

Thanks for your reply Ed.
First, I am almost 55 years old. So, yeah, you were close. I know my years are "advanced" because my offspring have clarified that for me. You know, large print in my birthday cards, large containers of prunes as gifts for all occasions, a final will and testament kit, a Geritol float with supper. Subtle stuff like those.
I enjoyed the piece about the e-drum toss. They must use a standardized kit for that. This could be the beginning of a whole new debate.
As for the splitter, I did ask for the TRS splitter specifically as I had learned of it from earlier posts. Externally, the design appears correct. Since your reply, I opened the casings on what were to be the two mono, quarter inch jack receivers in the splitter configuration. ; I noted that there were three wire connections present. I would have expected two for mono and three for stereo but electronics is not my thing. By the way, the jacks at each end of the patch cords that I have used for these particular triggers are both mono.
Does my description confirm that the adapter is rigged for stereo through and through and that, as you theorized already, the splitter is my problem?
Thanks again,
Sean
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 9:32 PM
Subject: [DTXpress] Re: Input 9/10

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "smcevenue" <seann@s...> wrote:

Hi Sean,

Nice to have you with us.

> First, an aside. I have recently resumed drumming after a 34 year
> hiatus. There is a definite theme developing here. Unwittingly, I
> have joined a group that has at least one thread other than Yamaha
> DTX running through it. Advanced years would be it.

From the evidence given, you must be anywhere from 35 to, say, 150
years old. Am I close?


> I don't know if others have already confronted this but how about
the weight
> of acoustic equipment compared with the weight of electronic kits.
> The difference really matters to me. I cannot worry much about the
> the realism, the relative dynamics etc. of a kit that I cannot
> carry. I wonder if the American Medical Association has statistics
> on the relative likelihood of having a coronary if you play (and
> carry around) e-drums or acoustic drums.

One small town in Scotland has practiced the venerable sport of
drumkit tossing for centuries. Until recently, the locals had only
acoustic kits to throw; the distances were not good. Now that the
young bucks have begun to use e-kits, the old records are falling
faster than kilts in a . . . well, you get the idea. The
traditionalists are grumbling about it, but one positive development
is that heart attacks have largely become a thing of the past. I
think there's a lesson in there somewhere.

> I have recently added a PCY65s and a TP65 to the standard
DTXpressII
> kit. I linked the PCY65 trigger from the base kit along with the
>; new TP65 trigger to input 9/10 using the 2 monos to 1 stereo
> adapter. I programmed the two inputs as a ride cymbal and as a Tom
> 4 in this instance, respectively. Both triggers send out the same
> voice even though I programmed 2 different voices. The rest of the
> kit is working as programmed.

I'm betting that your splitter is not of the TRS variety at all but a
stereo to two stereos. Check the plugs at the "Y" end; two rings mean
stereo.

Ed




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RE: [DTXpress] Re: Input 9/10

2004-01-23 by rdamon@mckinney-usa.com

Sean,

There should only be two wires going to each end of the patch cable that are
mono plugs. Three conductors at the Stereo end of the plug. You are taking a
mono TIP/SLEEVE + mono RING/SLEEVE = stereo TIP/RING/SLEEVE.

OGD

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Sean McEvenue [SMTP:seann@...]
> Sent:	Friday, January 23, 2004 9:13 AM
> To:	DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:	Re: [DTXpress] Re: Input 9/10
> 
> Thanks for your reply Ed.
>  
> First, I am almost 55 years old. So, yeah, you were close.   I know my
> years are "advanced"   because my offspring have clarified that for me.
> You know,   large print in my birthday cards, large containers of prunes
> as gifts for all occasions, a final will and testament kit, a Geritol
> float with supper.   Subtle stuff like those.
>  
> I enjoyed the piece about the e-drum toss.   They must use a standardized
> kit for that.   This could be the beginning of a whole new debate.
>  
> As for the splitter, I did ask for the TRS splitter specifically as I had
> learned of it from earlier posts.   Externally, the design appears
> correct.   Since your reply, I opened the casings on what were to be the
> two mono, quarter inch jack receivers in the splitter configuration.   I
> noted that there were three wire connections present.   I would have
> expected two for mono and three for stereo but electronics is not my
> thing.   By the way,  the  jacks at each end of the patch cords that I
> have used for these particular triggers are both mono.
>  
> Does my description confirm that the adapter is rigged for stereo through
> and through and that, as you theorized already,   the splitter is my
> problem?
>  
> Thanks again,
>  
> Sean
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> 
> From: emf <mailto:liberatusvirus@...> 
> To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DTXpress@yahoogroups.com> 
> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 9:32 PM
> Subject: [DTXpress] Re: Input 9/10
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DTXpress@yahoogroups.com>,
> "smcevenue" < seann@s <mailto:seann@s>...> wrote:
> 
> Hi Sean,
> 
> Nice to have you with us.
> 
> > First, an aside.   I have recently resumed drumming after a 34 year 
> > hiatus.   There is a definite theme developing here.   Unwittingly, I 
> > have joined a group that has at least one   thread other than Yamaha 
> > DTX running through it.   Advanced years would be it. 
> 
> From the evidence given, you must be anywhere from 35 to, say, 150 
> years old. Am I close? 
> 
> 
> > I don't know if others have already confronted this but how about 
> the weight 
> > of acoustic equipment compared with the weight of electronic kits.   
> > The difference really matters to me.   I cannot worry much about the 
> > the realism, the relative dynamics etc. of a kit that I cannot 
> > carry.   I wonder if the American Medical Association has statistics 
> > on the relative likelihood of having a coronary if you play (and 
> > carry around) e-drums or acoustic drums.   
> 
> One small town in Scotland has practiced the venerable sport of 
> drumkit tossing for centuries.   Until recently, the locals had only 
> acoustic kits to throw; the distances were not good. Now that the 
> young bucks have begun to use e-kits, the old records are falling 
> faster than kilts in a . . . well, you get the idea. The 
> traditionalists are grumbling about it, but one positive development 
> is that heart attacks have largely become a thing of the past. I 
> think there's a lesson in there somewhere. 
> 
> > I have recently added a PCY65s and a TP65 to the standard 
> DTXpressII 
> > kit.   I linked the PCY65 trigger from the base kit along with the 
> > new TP65 trigger to input 9/10 using the 2 monos to 1 stereo 
> > adapter.   I programmed the two inputs as a ride cymbal and as a Tom 
> > 4 in this instance, respectively.   Both triggers send out the same 
> > voice even though I programmed 2 different voices.   The rest of the 
> > kit is working as programmed.
> 
> I'm betting that your splitter is not of the TRS variety at all but a 
> stereo to two stereos. Check the plugs at the "Y" end; two rings mean 
> stereo.   
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
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Re: Input 9/10

2004-01-23 by emf

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Sean McEvenue" <seann@s...> wrote:

> As for the splitter, I did ask for the TRS splitter specifically as 
I had learned of it from earlier posts.  Externally, the design 
appears correct.  Since your reply, I opened the casings on what were 
to be the two mono, quarter inch jack receivers in the splitter 
configuration.  I noted that there were three wire connections 
present.  I would have expected two for mono and three for stereo but 
electronics is not my thing.  By the way, the jacks at each end of 
the patch cords that I have used for these particular triggers are 
both mono.

Sean,

Who's the manufacturer of the splitter and what's the model number? 
I'll double-check the product description for you. If you use mono 
runs from the two pads into inputs 9 and 10 independently, do you get 
exactly the voice that you wanted in each case? If so, then the 
splitter would seem to be the problem. As for the three wires instead 
of the two expected inside the casing, it sounds suspicious to me (a 
layman), but because there's a way to balance a mono cable with three 
wires, the presence of an extra run, in itself, might not be a dead 
giveaway. One of my partners in crime, OGD, is an electrical 
designer, who loves to break things down and try to put them together 
again; he might have a more penetrating analysis. But let's get the 
model number of the splitter and check of the two mono inputs without 
use of the splitter.

Ed

Re: [DTXpress] Re: Input 9/10

2004-01-23 by Vernon Graner

Hmm I'm begining to think we need to rename this group "old Farts Drum
Club".. :) We could all sit around and talk about how , back in our day,
we had drums without electronic cords, programmable parameters & MIDI,
tell that to todays kids, and they just won't believe ya. ;)

Vern

-- 
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Senior Systems Engineer    | obviously incompetent so why are we
Texas Information Services | paying you? Of course, if the network
http://www.txis.com        | is up, then we obviously don't need
Austin Office 512 328-8947 | you, so why are we paying you?" VLG




emf said:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "smcevenue" <seann@s...> wrote:
>
> Hi Sean,
>
> Nice to have you with us.
>
>> First, an aside.  I have recently resumed drumming after a 34 year
>> hiatus.  There is a definite theme developing here.  Unwittingly, I
>> have joined a group that has at least one  thread other than Yamaha
>> DTX running through it.  Advanced years would be it.
>
> From the evidence given, you must be anywhere from 35 to, say, 150
> years old. Am I close?
>
>
>> I don't know if others have already confronted this but how about
> the weight
>> of acoustic equipment compared with the weight of electronic kits.
>> The difference really matters to me.  I cannot worry much about the
>> the realism, the relative dynamics etc. of a kit that I cannot
>> carry.  I wonder if the American Medical Association has statistics
>> on the relative likelihood of having a coronary if you play (and
>> carry around) e-drums or acoustic drums.
>
> One small town in Scotland has practiced the venerable sport of
> drumkit tossing for centuries.  Until recently, the locals had only
> acoustic kits to throw; the distances were not good. Now that the
> young bucks have begun to use e-kits, the old records are falling
> faster than kilts in a . . . well, you get the idea. The
> traditionalists are grumbling about it, but one positive development
> is that heart attacks have largely become a thing of the past. I
> think there's a lesson in there somewhere.
>
>> I have recently added a PCY65s and a TP65 to the standard
> DTXpressII
>> kit.  I linked the PCY65 trigger from the base kit along with the
>> new TP65 trigger to input 9/10 using the 2 monos to 1 stereo
>> adapter.  I programmed the two inputs as a ride cymbal and as a Tom
>> 4 in this instance, respectively.  Both triggers send out the same
>> voice even though I programmed 2 different voices.  The rest of the
>> kit is working as programmed.
>
> I'm betting that your splitter is not of the TRS variety at all but a
> stereo to two stereos. Check the plugs at the "Y" end; two rings mean
> stereo.
>
> Ed
>
>
>
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Re: Input 9/10

2004-01-23 by emf

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Vernon Graner" <vern@t...> wrote:
> Hmm I'm begining to think we need to rename this group "old Farts 
Drum
> Club".. :) 

Careful, young'un, you'll scare the other kids away. Vern happens to 
be the youngest among the three moderators.

T/R/S Diagram (was Re: [DTXpress] Re: Input 9/10)

2004-01-23 by Vernon Graner

Sean McEvenue said:
> As for the splitter, I did ask for the TRS splitter specifically as I had
> learned of it from earlier posts.  Externally, the design appears
> correct... [SNIP]

Since this has been brought up so much, I created a quick schematic so
there can be no doubt what type of cable you need to hook up to port 9/10
on the DTXpress:

http://www.dtxpressions.com/images/trs.gif

Take this, print it and take it with you to the music store and you can
then make sure you get the right thing! :)

Vern

-- 
Vern Graner CNE/CNA/SSE    | "If the network is down, then you're
Senior Systems Engineer    | obviously incompetent so why are we
Texas Information Services | paying you? Of course, if the network
http://www.txis.com        | is up, then we obviously don't need
Austin Office 512 328-8947 | you, so why are we paying you?" VLG




Sean McEvenue said:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> Thanks for your reply Ed.
>
> First, I am almost 55 years old. So, yeah, you were close.  I know my
> years are "advanced"  because my offspring have clarified that for me.
> You know,  large print in my birthday cards, large containers of prunes
> as gifts for all occasions, a final will and testament kit, a Geritol
> float with supper.  Subtle stuff like those.
>
> I enjoyed the piece about the e-drum toss.  They must use a standardized
> kit for that.  This could be the beginning of a whole new debate.
>
> As for the splitter, I did ask for the TRS splitter specifically as I had
> learned of it from earlier posts.  Externally, the design appears
> correct.  Since your reply, I opened the casings on what were to be the
> two mono, quarter inch jack receivers in the splitter configuration.  I
> noted that there were three wire connections present.  I would have
> expected two for mono and three for stereo but electronics is not my
> thing.  By the way, the jacks at each end of the patch cords that I have
> used for these particular triggers are both mono.
>
> Does my description confirm that the adapter is rigged for stereo through
> and through and that, as you theorized already,  the splitter is my
> problem?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Sean
> ----- Original Message -----
>   From: emf
>   To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 9:32 PM
>   Subject: [DTXpress] Re: Input 9/10
>
>
>   --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "smcevenue" <seann@s...> wrote:
>
>   Hi Sean,
>
>   Nice to have you with us.
>
>   > First, an aside.  I have recently resumed drumming after a 34 year
>   > hiatus.  There is a definite theme developing here.  Unwittingly, I
>   > have joined a group that has at least one  thread other than Yamaha
>   > DTX running through it.  Advanced years would be it.
>
>   From the evidence given, you must be anywhere from 35 to, say, 150
>   years old. Am I close?
>
>
>   > I don't know if others have already confronted this but how about
>   the weight
>   > of acoustic equipment compared with the weight of electronic kits.
>   > The difference really matters to me.  I cannot worry much about the
>   > the realism, the relative dynamics etc. of a kit that I cannot
>   > carry.  I wonder if the American Medical Association has statistics
>   > on the relative likelihood of having a coronary if you play (and
>   > carry around) e-drums or acoustic drums.
>
>   One small town in Scotland has practiced the venerable sport of
>   drumkit tossing for centuries.  Until recently, the locals had only
>   acoustic kits to throw; the distances were not good. Now that the
>   young bucks have begun to use e-kits, the old records are falling
>   faster than kilts in a . . . well, you get the idea. The
>   traditionalists are grumbling about it, but one positive development
>   is that heart attacks have largely become a thing of the past. I
>   think there's a lesson in there somewhere.
>
>   > I have recently added a PCY65s and a TP65 to the standard
>   DTXpressII
>   > kit.  I linked the PCY65 trigger from the base kit along with the
>   > new TP65 trigger to input 9/10 using the 2 monos to 1 stereo
>   > adapter.  I programmed the two inputs as a ride cymbal and as a Tom
>   > 4 in this instance, respectively.  Both triggers send out the same
>   > voice even though I programmed 2 different voices.  The rest of the
>   > kit is working as programmed.
>
>   I'm betting that your splitter is not of the TRS variety at all but a
>   stereo to two stereos. Check the plugs at the "Y" end; two rings mean
>   stereo.
>
>   Ed
>
>
>
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Re: [DTXpress] Re: Input 9/10

2004-01-23 by Vernon Graner

Dang! Youngest? I don't *feel* it! The defining moment for me was about 5
years ago when I was the Network Engineer for a local High School.

I was in the server room, working on a system with my Altec/Lansing
system w/sub cranked up playing Zepplin's "Black Dog". A couple of the
"Student Administrators" (two kids w/computer interest that had been
helping out) walked in and asked what I was listening to. Incredulously,
I said, "Zepplin man!" their response... a sneer and this phrase which I
think will haunt me forever:

"Ug! Geezer Rock!"

Then they walked out.... I sat, stunned and heart broken. I was truly old.

:P

Vern

PS: I have to admit, those kids helped me update my playlists from my old
standards like Rush, Boston, Foreigner, Styx, Whitesnake, Zep, Van Halen
etc. with some pretty great new stuff like Nickelback, Staind, Godsmack,
NIN, Rammstein, Puya, System of a Down, Metallica, Cake, Evanescense
etc... :)

--
Vern Graner CNE/CNA/SSE    | "If the network is down, then you're
Senior Systems Engineer    | obviously incompetent so why are we
Texas Information Services | paying you? Of course, if the network
http://www.txis.com        | is up, then we obviously don't need
Austin Office 512 328-8947 | you, so why are we paying you?" VLG




emf said:
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> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Vernon Graner" <vern@t...> wrote:
>> Hmm I'm begining to think we need to rename this group "old Farts
> Drum
>> Club".. :)
>
> Careful, young'un, you'll scare the other kids away. Vern happens to
> be the youngest among the three moderators.
>
>
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Re: [DTXpress] Re: Input 9/10

2004-01-23 by Sean McEvenue

OGD and Ed,
Thanks very much. I took the splitter back to the music store where I bought it. One of their staff modified it to do what I wanted. Everything is working fine at this point.
While I waited for that to be done, I browsed the wall of various adapters and there it was, made to order, right beside the one I first purchased. The staff person was not aware of the difference. Both were labelled as TRS splitters despite the difference. The labelling did go on to speak to the difference between the two. I did not look closely at it assuming simply that I had the right splitter from the sales person. As I said earlier, it looked right externally.
I think that I can get the manufacturer's name and the part number(s) for you Ed if that still interests you. Just let me know.
Thanks again,
Sean
Thanks again
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Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 9:28 AM
Subject: RE: [DTXpress] Re: Input 9/10

Sean,

There should only be two wires going to each end of the patch cable that are
mono plugs. Three conductors at the Stereo end of the plug. You are taking a
mono TIP/SLEEVE + mono RING/SLEEVE = stereo TIP/RING/SLEEVE.

OGD

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sean McEvenue [SMTP:seann@...]
> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2004 9:13 AM
> To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [DTXpress] Re: Input 9/10
>
> Thanks for your reply Ed.
>
> First, I am almost 55 years old. So, yeah, you were close. I know my
> years are "advanced" because my offspring have clarified that for me.
> You know, large print in my birthday cards, large containers of prunes
> as gifts for all occasions, a final will and testament kit, a Geritol
> float with supper. Subtle stuff like those.
>
> I enjoyed the piece about the e-drum toss. They must use a standardized
> kit for that. This could be the beginning of a whole new debate.
>
> As for the splitter, I did ask for the TRS splitter specifically as I had
> learned of it from earlier posts. Externally, the design appears
> correct. Since your reply, I opened the casings on what were to be the
>; two mono, quarter inch jack receivers in the splitter configuration. I
> noted that there were three wire connections present. I would have
> expected two for mono and three for stereo but electronics is not my
> thing. By the way, the jacks at each end of the patch cords that I
> have used for these particular triggers are both mono.
>
>; Does my description confirm that the adapter is rigged for stereo through
> and through and that, as you theorized already, the splitter is my
> problem?
>
> Thanks again,
>
> Sean
> ----- Original Message -----
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> Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 9:32 PM
> Subject: [DTXpress] Re: Input 9/10
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> Hi Sean,
>
> Nice to have you with us.
>
> > First, an aside. I have recently resumed drumming after a 34 year
> > hiatus. There is a definite theme developing here. Unwittingly, I
> > have joined a group that has at least one thread other than Yamaha
> > DTX running through it. Advanced years would be it.
>
> From the evidence given, you must be anywhere from 35 to, say, 150
> years old. Am I close?
>
>
> > I don't know if others have already confronted this but how about
> the weight
> > of acoustic equipment compared with the weight of electronic kits.
> > The difference really matters to me. I cannot worry much about the
> > the realism, the relative dynamics etc. of a kit that I cannot
> > carry. I wonder if the American Medical Association has statistics
> > on the relative likelihood of having a coronary if you play (and
> > carry around) e-drums or acoustic drums.
>
> One small town in Scotland has practiced the venerable sport of
> drumkit tossing for centuries. Until recently, the locals had only
> acoustic kits to throw; the distances were not good. Now that the
> young bucks have begun to use e-kits, the old records are falling
> faster than kilts in a . . . well, you get the idea. The
> traditionalists are grumbling about it, but one positive development
> is that heart attacks have largely become a thing of the past. I
> think there's a lesson in there somewhere.
>
> > I have recently added a PCY65s and a TP65 to the standard
> DTXpressII
> > kit. I linked the PCY65 trigger from the base kit along with the
> > new TP65 trigger to input 9/10 using the 2 monos to 1 stereo
> > adapter. I programmed the two inputs as a ride cymbal and as a Tom
> > 4 in this instance, respectively. Both triggers send out the same
> > voice even though I programmed 2 different voices. The rest of the
> > kit is working as programmed.
>
> I'm betting that your splitter is not of the TRS variety at all but a
> stereo to two stereos. Check the plugs at the "Y" end; two rings mean
> stereo.
>;
> Ed
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Re: Input 9/10

2004-01-23 by emf

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Sean McEvenue" <seann@s...> wrote:

> I think that I can get  the manufacturer's name and the part number
(s) for you Ed if that still interests you.   Just let me know.

Sean,

Glad to find that it worked out. My curiosity about this stuff is a 
mania, but I'd like to have the product information if it's easy for 
you to get it.

Ed

Input 9/10

2004-01-24 by Sean McEvenue

Hi Ed,
I am attaching a scan of the packaging of the product that I bought and which was modified to do the job I needed done. It provides the details you asked for. The website for the manufacturer is printed on it as well. ; I do not have the model number right now for the correct part. Perhaps you will find it on the website. Just the same, I will pursue it and forward it later, just in case.
I mentioned in my earlier e-mail that the packaging spelled out the difference between the two adapters. That info is actually present on the packaging of the correct part, not on the incorrect part as you will see.
Enjoy!
Sean

Input 9/10

2005-11-12 by Michael Y.

Hey guys,
I have the original dtxpress.  My cymbal trigger is connected to the
9/10 input.  By default, it triggers a bell sound on all drum sets. 
The only way I can make it something else is if i build a custom set.
 How can I change this default sound to something else that will be in
effect on all sets?

Thanks,
Mike

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