Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Ed,

Both Yamaha and Roland have added links onto thier website that basically
shows what they are introducing. I have never been to NAMM, but I would
assume that if they were going to introduce something new, it would be they
on the first day and not want until the last day to show it. I didn't see
anything new e-drum wise. Here are the links:

http://www.giles.com/yamaha1/pr/trade/NAMM/S03/index.html

http://www.rolandus.com/Specs_Brochures/SNAMM_NPC_Final.pdf

OldGuyDrummer

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	liberatusvirus [SMTP:liberatusvirus@...]
> Sent:	Saturday, July 19, 2003 11:42 AM
> To:	DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> Subject:	[DTXpress] Re: caught the upgrade bug; go with used DTX1
> module or new DTXll?
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Skirby56" <skirby@i...> wrote:
> > ...or should I wait to trip over a used DTX2 module? (I'm not in a 
> > screamin hurry).
> 
> Hi Steve,
> 
> It depends on what you want from the module. If you covet a three-
> trigger gum-rubber snare, then the II is your ticket, and the 
> XpressI, which I assume is your primary module, could fill in any 
> gaps. If you're satisfied with the sounds/technology of the I, 
> howver, you could get a MIDI trigger device for extra inputs. The 
> Roland TMC-6 is a current model; discontinued models also exist on 
> the used market, though with decreasing regularity. I own a 
> MIDIkiti, which has served me well for a long time. Since I don't 
> have any stereo triggers (piezo plus FSR rim), I'm not sacrificing 
> anything technical. But you should remember that crosstalk becomes 
> complicated on a rack that houses triggers connected to different 
> devices. The problems are not insurmountable, but they may require 
> at least some re-positioning or some elementary DIY dampening. 
> 
> > Do the benefits outweigh the cost difference? Should I consider a 
> > module from a diff. mftr, Alesis, et al?
> 
> I don't see the electronic benefits of the II outweighing its price 
> increase over the I--as a second module. But that's a personal 
> matter. I do think, however, that a fairly current, and pricey, 
> second module to be used only for extra triggers may be overkill, 
> anyway Unless you plan on adding the equivalent of another kit or 
> two to your arrangement, you'll be paying for more than what you 
> need. Oldguydrummer's array of three DTXpressIIs, however, 
> constitutes the rare exception. See his photos. 
> 
> A discontinued, or otherwise phased out high-quality unit from 
> another manufacturer seems like a viable option to me, but, again, 
> if you end up not liking the sounds (as Stephen did not like his 
> Alessis DM5), you'll be wasting your cash or time. I can't see how 
> you could go wrong with something like a Roland TD5 or XpressI, 
> except in the overkill department. Know your needs and what you're 
> getting to meet them.
> 
> One more thing: With Summer NAMM in its second day, the possibility 
> of new offerings from Yamaha looms large. You might want to wait and 
> see what fate has in store for you. A new module might be more 
> enticing than a combo, providing that price doesn't get in the way. 
> I have a few things of my own lying around--an XPressI for one-- 
> that may become expendable if I decide to buy a new Xtreme-type 
> brain. If I don't report anything within the next few weeks, remind 
> me about it if you're still in the market.
> 
> Ed
> 
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--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, rdamon@m... wrote:
> assume that if they were going to introduce something new, it 
would be they
> on the first day and not want until the last day to show it. I 
didn't see
> anything new e-drum wise. Here are the links:

OGD,

I agree. What an undistinguished lot Yamaha has put up. If the new 
module is in fact delayed, my guess is that Yamaha has not worked 
out the licensing problems yet. Somebody somewhere mentioned to me 
that fall was a better bet for it, and anything else e-drum related, 
but I don't know. It also seems to suggest that the PCY 150, if it 
is more than an idle rumor, is going to be bundled with a new 
Xtreme. As Homer Simpson said when the gun salesman told him he'd 
have to wait for a license before he could take his new gun 
home, "But I'm mad now." What a disappointment. 

Potential newbies: Stop buying the XpressII for a while; Yamaha 
needs an incentive to add new product. Meanwhile participate in the 
latest poll by Stewart about the PCY 150. At least give it a "maybe."

Ed

--- liberatusvirus wrote:
> I agree. What an undistinguished lot Yamaha
> has put up.

And not just Yamaha. There's nothing exciting in the drums and 
percussion announcements at all. The highlight seems to be an LED 
drum key from Evans. Woo.

[sigh]

Stewart

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "moosetication" <moosetication@y...> 
wrote:
> --- liberatusvirus wrote:
> > I agree. What an undistinguished lot Yamaha
> > has put up.
> 
> And not just Yamaha. There's nothing exciting in the drums and 
> percussion announcements at all. The highlight seems to be an LED 
> drum key from Evans. Woo.
> 
> [sigh]
> 
> Stewart

Or, as Homer would say "woo-hoo"

Thanks for all your feedback guys. I keep hunting around before I 
decide on anything. Maybe I'll save/wait to get an acoustic kit.

Steve