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2000-02-04 by scottsman66@netzero.net
like muscle memory? does annyone think that playing e-drums, as different as they are, make you form bad habbits as far as playing real drums? I don't want this to happen thanx....... steve
2000-02-04 by Giles Hearn
If you read some of the previous messages, you will notice that a few people have touched on this subject before. All have said that their playing has atually improved since using the DTXpress. They feel more confident and have more control over their dynamics and speed than they previously had when playing an acoustic kit. I reckon they're right. I haven't had a chance to play an acoustic since buying the DTXpress, but I can feel that my playing has improved already - just being able to practise without being arrested for noise pollution is a bonus.. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
2000-02-04 by Gpcollins7@aol.com
In a message dated 4/2/2000 4:34:06, scottsman66@... writes: <<does annyone think that playing e-drums, as different as they are, make you form bad habbits as far as playing real drums? >> A very interesting question and I would urge anyone who feels there IS a negative to comment? As much as I'd love to play the DTXPress every day and dream about a return to my glory days, life has moved on and I know my limits. While I was once considered a good drummer, I am sure now, I would shape up very substandard, but to get to my point... I did get to play last night and felt a great warmth within that abilities I thought had gone forever are returning to me. With the exception of the cymbals - I still do not like the 'feel' they give - nor have I settled on a 'crash' I am happy with yet, but that aside, I actually thought last night, this is better than a 'real' kit! Controversial perhaps, but given my own circumstances, the case is closed already! In no way could I have an acoustic kit. This would be space prohibitive, the noise factor is an obvious no no with neighbours, but last night, I was playing with my lovely lady just 10 feet away in the next room. No doors were shut and I kind of thought, this is pushing my luck. When I finished and walked in all smiles from the buzz of playing, she said "That sounded really good" WOW I thought! Remember, all she hears is that wood to rubber / plastic thwack! As I played, I did so without any inhibitions, I also was able to watch where my sticks made contact with the pad and was pleased to see they were landing centrally. I to had feared about sticks flying all around my ears when I collided with the side of a small pad, but after just one day where I basically sat down, closed my eyes, moved the seat a few times and just felt my way around the kit until I was comfortable with the feel, I have not had this problem even once. To look at the kit, all the drum pads ended up angled as my old kit had been, so the DTX has not inflicted me with a new approach to playing. But, I do feel I have a far more subtle style thus far, perhaps even a lighter jazzier style? Why? Don't really know at this time, but at first I thought it was the sheer macho power of an acoustic kit which made me play with more force than I seem to now, but this theory went out the window last night when playing to a CD. The track ( by Zucchero ) switched from light ballad to power rock and the wonderful sound the toms have, drew raw power out of me and I was switching from style to style with ease. It is not a physical thing either as my arms are still strong as I now do endurance Kart racing, which I did not in the old days and this keeps wrist and arm muscles toned. Right now from where I sit, I am not missing the acoustic kit in any way shape or form. Way to go Yamaha! Cheers Graham
2000-02-04 by pdk
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> From: Gpcollins7@... > > It is not a physical thing either as my arms are still strong as I now do > endurance Kart racing, which I did not in the old days and this keeps wrist > and arm muscles toned. > > Right now from where I sit, I am not missing the acoustic kit in any way > shape or form. > > Way to go Yamaha! > > Cheers > > Graham >
2000-02-04 by Gpcollins7@aol.com
LOL! Nice one :0) No, for the record I race a BIZ THUNDERKART powered by Honda and my team are the 1999 Champions. Excuse me while I adopt smug mode! Cheers Graham
2000-02-04 by AARON M CRIM
Steve, Don't discount your brain. If it can handle playing polyrhythms then it can handle knowing the difference between rubber and plastic, and your body will do the adjusting from there. I've actually noticed an improvement on the acoustic set (I play both regularly) due to what I think of as a sort of cross-training. Also, I've got PROOF that playing e-drums won't cramp your acoustic style: Omar Hakim! Keep pounding out the rhythms, --Aaron On 4 Feb 2000 04:30:21 -0000 scottsman66@... writes: > From: scottsman66@... > > like muscle memory? > does annyone think that playing e-drums, as different as they are, > make you form bad > habbits as far as playing real drums? > > I don't want this to happen > > thanx....... > > steve > > --------------------------- ONElist Sponsor > ---------------------------- > > Don\ufffdt buy your Valentine a Gift by clicking here. > <a href=" http://clickme.onelist.com/ad/SparksValentine11 ">Click > Here</a> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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2000-02-05 by Hubble, Andrew John
I've read a few responses to this and they all suggest that playing e-drums makes you a better drummer, not worse and I have to agree. Since I play acoustic with one band and electronic with another, I am well aware of the different playing styles needed for the two kits. The styles are different, with the acoustic kit allowing a far greater range of feeling to be expressed through the subtle differences in how the drums and cymbals are struck. I find that the electronic kit will (obviously) only give me the preset sound when struck, at varying volume levels, where-as an acoustic drum or cymbal can be made to change its whole character depending on where struck, how hard and how much of the stick comes in contact. Alot of people have said that they don't miss their acoustic kits. Well I couldn't be without mine. The electronic kits have come a long way, but the still don't replace the real thing. I'm still playing arround with my electronic kit, and as some of you may know I build my own pads. So I'd be interrested to hear if those of you with DTXpress pads feel that they give a good wide range of response from subtle to loud. I seem to have little time right now, but I'm still experimenting with ways to give my home made pads more feeling. The biggest difference I find between the DTXpress and an acoustic kit is the hi-hat. I use real cymbals with my DTXpress for live work, but have to use electronic for recording. I have realised since playing e-drums, how much I work the hi-hat to get different crescendos and sounds by altering the seperation between the hats. You can't do that with the DTXpress. On the whole I have received mainly compliments from my acoustic band since I've been playing the DTXpress. Playing t the DTXpress click has realy tightened my playing and has improved me technically without my realising it. The only negative comment was that I had lost some of my pace. In the acoustic band we play some fast punky numbers (Green Day - Basket Case, Foo Fighters - Monkey Wrench, Therapy - Screamager) which we realy pep up, but after the christmas break, where I'd only being playing e-drums, we all fealt I'd lost some speed. I'm trying hard to get that back now without loosing the improvements I've gained from working to click. On the whole, playing different drumming styles, e-drum and acoustic, can only strengthen you as a player. You soon learn what motor skills need changing when you pass between the two. I feel the advantages of e-drums far outway the disadvantages and there is no loss of control of acoustic kits, if you're willing to work at it. I'd be interested to hear if anyone has tried out a Roland brain and hi-hat pedal, since these are supposed to offer much more lifelike response. Till next time...... ----------
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2000-02-07 by Giles Hearn
My only thoughts on this subject : Sometimes (and I think we've all been there), I get into a state of drumogasm - a state of higher consciousness during a fast, loud song where you seem to become one with the kit. The music is all around you and you just buzz with energy and power. Yeah, yeah - it all sounds lke New Age bullshit, but it's difficult to describe. It's when you hit the peak of the song (or gig) and you're right in there and you *know* you sound brilliant. You know the sound of every drum and cymbal intimately - it's very organic. Can you get to that state of "rhythmic nirvana" with the DTXpress? has anyone been there? Andy? I'll look forward to getting there myself when I next play live - although I might take me a while - I'm not as young as I used to be..hehe... __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com