Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Hi Ed, I think what's happening with the scenario of the gong drum kit
is, the gong voice is probably programmed to the edge switch, if there
is such an animal, and when I'm hitting the cymbal any where at all, no
matter how or where I hit it, it won't make the gong sound, at all.
That pretty much tells me that which ever switch the gong sound is
programmed to is faulting.  At least that's the only thing which makes
much sense to me about any of this.  
 
Any way, as I responded to Keith's email.  I'm pretty sure, like he
said, that it's probably a switch in the cymbal that is faulty.  It is
extremely intermittent at this point.  It does work ok some times and
other times it won't work at all on the edge sound, the way it's suppose
to.  
 
Thanks for all your input regarding this matter, but I'm pretty sure
it's a faulty switch within the cymbal.  
 
Thanks,
Glen
 
-----Original Message-----
From: emf [mailto:liberatusvirus@...] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2004 6:42 AM
To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [DTXpress] Re: DTXPRESS III Wedge Stereo Cymbal Problem
 
--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Glen Earl" <gdearl@e...> wrote:
> Hi I'm fairly new to the Yamaha DTXPRESS III area.  If any one can, 
> please see if you can answer a question about a problem I've just 
> started having with my PCY-65S wedge stereo cymbal.  First of all, 
> the set is only about 10 days old, yesterday when I was just 
playing 
> one of the pre-programmed drumkits, like the accoustic drumkit for 
> example, after about 45 minutes of playing it when I hit the edge 
of 
> the PCY-65S cymbal it started to make a swish sound with an abrupt 
> stop instead of the typical nice crashhhhhhhhhhhhh hissing sound it 
> always made before.  Now when I play it I notice it will do this 
> intermitanly and not all the time.  Sometimes it will play the way 
> it use to and is suppose to and other times it will do it's 
> abnoxious new short swish computer synthisized sound.  It doesn't 
> sound at all like a nice clear crash cymbal when it does it.  It's 
> just abnoxious. 

Hi Glen,

To supplement Keith, I'm not at all sure what's happening at this 
point. I assume that different voices are programmed into the bow and 
edge of the cymbal. One thing that we've learned over the years with 
earlier versions of this cymbal is that hitting an electronic cymbal 
is not the same as hitting an acoustic one. If you don't strike a rim 
with more of a glancing blow than a direct hit, you risk choking the 
voice. In other words, leaving the stick in contact with the cymbal 
for any length of time beyond the intial contact risks activating the 
choke function. This seems not to be the case as much for the newer 
versions than the old. But, as I said, I have no idea whether it has 
anything to do with your current problem.

> I did notice, however, most of the time when it starts to act up 
> like this if you hit the cymbal toward the center and not the edge 
> then it will still crash, however, when you choose some other 
> drumkits like the one that has the gong sound and not a crash sound 
> it won't make the gong sound at all, no matter where you hit it.  

I'm not sure what you're driving at here. The rim switch and the bow 
piezo are programmed to separate sounds entirely (that is, if you or 
the default kit set them up as such). Your rim switch can fail 
without affecting what happens at the center (not vice versa, 
though). Is the gong an edge sound? If we can get clear about what 
you expect to happen and what's not happening, we should be able to 
get to the bottom of it. Hopefully, you having quite understood how 
these things work. The worst case is a broken cymbal; the best is 
user error.

Ed





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