It has been a really long week I meant to say D's post are moderated. OGD --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, rdamon@m... wrote: > My apoligies, that was a OOPs on my part. > > Gord's post are still moderated, which mean they get emailed to me (or > Ed/Vern) for prior approval before they are posted to the group. > > So when his reply to your post was sent to me for approval, I ended up > making a direct reply to you, instead of to the group (first time it's ever > happened!) . I caught what I did after I hit the "send" button. > > I corrected this by waiting for his post to show up at dtxpress and > responsed to that with the same messege that was accidentally sent to you. > > Again, sorry for sending it to you directly. > > OGD > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: distortion@r... [SMTP:distortion@r...] > > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 4:11 PM > > To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [DTXpress] Re: How to for newbie > > > > Ok...? > > I didn't need this info, but thanx... it was D. who had the problem.. > > gord > > > > > > > > rdamon@m... <mailto:rdamon@m...> wrote: > > > > > > Gord, > > > > I started out with two complete DtxpressII kits. Using just two modules, I > > did run a midi cable from module 1 to module 2 for the sole purpose of > > sending a midi control change code for kit increment/kit decrement from a > > BP80 connected to zone 9/10 on module 1 that would pass through to module > > 2. > > By hitting the left pad of the BP80, both modules would go from kit 60 to > > 59, 59 to 58 etc. and by hitting the right pad of the BP80, both modules > > would go from 58 to 59, 59 to 60, etc. But even with that, all of the > > sound was still sent out the left/right output jacks on the rear of the > > modules to a mixer. My music sources were then fed directly into the > > mixer, > > which gives me excellent control over sound levels between the three > > modules > > and the music source. > > > > When I got my third module and extra pads, I stop using the midi for that > > purpose. (If your next question is "How did you do it?", at this point it > > has been almost a year since I did it, I would be hard pressed to remember > > the right settings without going back throught menus again.) > > > > OGD > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: webc1958 [ SMTP:delcamroy@s... > > <mailto:SMTP:delcamroy@s...>] > > > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 2:58 PM > > > To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DTXpress@yahoogroups.com> > > > Subject: [DTXpress] Re: How to for newbie > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DTXpress@yahoogroups.com>, "emf" > > <liberatusvirus@y...> <mailto:liberatusvirus@y...> wrote: > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com <mailto:DTXpress@yahoogroups.com>, > > distortion@r... wrote: > > > > > D. and Gord, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This may well be a case in which someone thinks that the only > > > way > > > > to > > > > > > add a second module to a kit for more inputs is through MIDI. > > > > > > Actually, this method is redundant at best and, well, . . . > > > wrong > > > > at > > > > > > worst. If you were to use a dedicated input to MIDI device, like > > > > > > Roland's TMC-6, you would indeed use a MIDI connection from the > > > > slave > > > > > > device to access MIDI note numbers on the DTXPress II module. > > > > > > > > > > And THAT would use MIDI... you contradicted yourself... This > > > > would > > > > > also run the possiblility of having the DTX polyphony run out, > > > > depending > > > > > on the voice structure of the kit being played. > > > > > > > > Gord. > > > > > > > > I was making the distinction between a purely MIDI-connected device- > > > - > > > > like the TMC-6, the Kat MIDIKITI, the Roland PM-16 et al.-- which > > > has > > > > no sounds of its own, and a second sound module, of the DTXpress > > > > sort, which does not need to access its sounds through a MIDI > > > > connection. The DTXpress does have limited MIDI note numbers for > > > the > > > > purpose of a MIDI slave device used in conjunction with the > > > DTXpress > > > > itself, but many of us (including me, for years) have used such a > > > > device to good effect for as many as six or more inputs. I fail to > > > > see the self-contradiction (unless I were saying that the only way > > > to > > > > add inputs is via MIDI, and I'm not). > > > > > > > > > > But if > > > > > > you simply want the benefit of two drum modules, each with its > > > own > > > > > > inputs, sounds, and audio outputs, what you need is an > > > inexpensive > > > > > > mixer--on the order of the Rolls MX28 or one of the (dare I say > > > > it) > > > > > > Behringers, or others--which can accept audio output > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But we don't know what D. wants, as we can't tell from the > > > > question. > > > > > Offering all these solutions without truly knowing what D. wants > > > > could > > > > > just serve to confuse the issue. > > > > > The problem with tech questions is that we sometimes want to dive > > > > into a > > > > > solution without first totally identifying the TRUE needs, always > > > > needs > > > > > more WHYs to clarify and diagnose, then solve. > > > > > > > > > > Reminds me of the story of a guy that bought a computer system > > > from > > > > an > > > > > online retailer... he got it all shipped, and then complained > > > that > > > > it > > > > > was all in pieces.. but he never did order a pre-built > > > computer... > > > > just > > > > > the parts... he never explained his needs, and the retailer never > > > > > asked... a buddy just told him what components to get... he got > > > > what he > > > > > ordered, but not what he wanted. > > > > > > > > True, we don't know for sure, and all of us are capable of being > > > > wrong, misinformed, and unclear about many things. But we've seen > > > > this situation come up a lot over the years on this board. > > > Hazarding > > > > an informed guess at this point won't ruin anyone's day; nothing is > > > > etched in stone. And if this is indeed what D was trying to do all > > > > along, we may have skipped everyone an extra step or two. > > > > > > > > Ed > > > > > > Thank you for your feedback, I will clarify: I have two full kits, > > > with brains, now. I just want a bigger kit. I was under the > > > impression that you could connect one brain via midi to the other > > > and monitor the entire kit from the 'last' brain (ie. brain 2)... I > > > suspectfrom reading some of the replies that it is ridiculously > > > difficult to attempt and that the inexpensive 4-6 channel mixer would > > > be the best option, yes? > > > Sorry for any confusion, but if there is a way to hook them up via > > > midi for this type of monitoring (function)great (I just don't know > > > how and the manual doesn't state it explicitly. > > > > > > Thanks again! > > > D. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > ADVERTISEMENT > > > click here > > > < > > <http://rd.yahoo.com/SIG=12cav4hhq/M=267637.4116730.5333196.1261774/D= egro > > > > > > upweb/S=1705031972:HM/EXP=1070744081/A=1853618/R=0/* > > <http://www.netflix.com> > > > /Default?mqso=60178338&partid=4116730> > > > > > > < > > <http://us.adserver.yahoo.com/l? 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Re: How to for newbie
2003-12-05 by oldguydrummer