Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Can't agree with the "mesh heads = more realsim" stance for snare drums, I find that mesh heads are far far far too soft for proper rudiment practice. The speed of the rebounds isn't high enough, so you end up putting in alot more effort to try and pull the stick away from the head faster. You'll never be as fast as a nice snappy batter head. The rubber pads are far better option for realism (my honest opinion) the mesh heads are a bit of a gimmick that is a real boost for the silent practice session, but not a huge leap in sensativity or realism just yet, but it's a step in the right direction, give it another 10 years and we may be a bit nearer.
Problem with electronic drums is the lack of monetary return for innovation.  Not enough people buy the things to amke development budgets pay back, the more music goes towards live DJ'ing and mixing the less and less people will use these kits.  There has to be a real big groundswell arround a truly innovative and desireably piece of kit before we see e-drums realy take off like the electric guitar has, and that's kind of an egg&chicken debate in itself.


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From: 	Mark Owen
Sent: 	Monday, July 10, 2000 8:55 PM
To: 	DTXpress@egroups.com
Subject: 	[DTXpress] Re: New Pad Advice

Fellow DTX users:
First: I tried to live with the standard single zone snare for about 
ten minutes, before upgrading to the Yamaha TP80S  which works fairly 
well. It's still not a real snare but don't forget ,you can assign
two voices to each zone of the snare, crossfade them for more
realistic 
dynamic response. It takes a little care in choosing sounds, x-fade 
levels and of course, playing technique.
Second: The Roland V's have not worked at all (for me) in channel 2
of the DTXpress, supporting the previous statements made. We didn't 
have the right cord to try ch 9/10 (at the dealer) but I am curious
to 
try that option: a mesh pad has to provide a more realistic for 
practice of snare rudiments. 
Third: I have experimented with a homemade pad using two piezo 
elements, per directions from http://www.electronicdrums.com
I joined the electronicdrums forum to get insight into homebuilt pads 
and have successfully added a second crash cymbal (under$10) and my 
"prototype" two zone snare. My plan is to buy a replacement mesh
head, 
mount it to a 4"X12"acrylic "drum shell" i can have made for about
$30 
(plus the cost of 6 lugs/rods and a rim from a local dealer) Mounting 
this on a snare stand. That way the rack doesn't bounce or false 
trigger. 
  
Glad to see activity on this forum again...

Mark

--- In DTXpress@egroups.com, Brandon E Paluzzi <bp33@a...> wrote:
> Are you talking about my message?
> 
> I said that the Roland uses dual piezos (on the mesh head pads)
> 
> The rubber pads are a piezo head sensor and an FSR rim trigger,
like the
> yamahas.
> 
> Bp
> 
> 
> On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 sanctum@s... wrote:
> 
> > The DTXpress only has on dual input, and I'm not sure you're right
> >about the Roland using condensers for the rim triggers, I've read
> >previously that the rim triggers in Roland pads are just piezo
sensors.
> >alittle conflicting information going arround obviously, if you've
had
> >first hand experience of this I'm willing to change my perspective.
> >By the By, the DTX V2.0 seems to have far less irritating bugs
than the
> >DTXpress, is that right? Is it worth the extra dosh, I may upgrade.
> > 



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