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Re: Volume Aux song/ click

2003-04-23 by fxsran

---
 Hi Guys,
Okay to be honest im really confused with all this choking effect 
coz i still cant get em to choke..
However, Ive managed to get the shift button to adjust the 
Snare/Kick and the Accomp Vol..Thanks for all the advise earlier..

But Chokes im still as blur..:)

 In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, rdamon@m... wrote:
> Scott, 
> 
> I as said in my other post. 
> 
> I used stereo cable from PCY65S to zone 1 input.
> I set the trigger input to PCY65 (used for both PCY65/PCY65S).
> I set up the voice for pad to C/002 and the rim for C/003. 
> I got two sounds (pad=Crash, rim=crashe), but it did not choke.
> I made the exact same settings to trigger/voice and moved cable 
from zone 1
> to zone 2 and the cymbal choke.
> I tried two other PCY65S cymbals and the samething happen.
> 
> I then plugged in the PCY80S and changed the trigger input to 
PCY80 (used
> for both PCY80/PCY80S) and the same thing happened between zones 1 
and 2. I
> then randomly check other zones and the results were similar. I 
did this on
> my third module, since I haven't had the time to reprogram for all 
the pads
> that I have gotten. But did notice this problem when I got my 
first two
> modules last September. I am going to look at it one last time 
this weekend
> and then may call Yamaha to see what the final answer is even 
though I no
> longer have a problem with this issue since I have the third 
module. All of
> my stereo pads/cymbals (TP65S x2; PCY80S x3, PCY65S x6) are now 
snug as a
> bug in the three zone input jacks or the HiHat input jack no. 8. 
(Two of the
> PCY65S are being used for Hihats inputs.)
> 
> I hope you guys are right and I am wrong, so that next year when I 
beg the
> wife for the fourth modules, I will have more options....well 
actually I
> waiting for the magical PCY150 three cymbal pads that is referred 
to in the
> manual.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> OldGuyDrummer
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:	hairytrigger [SMTP:artifax@i...]
> > Sent:	Wednesday, April 23, 2003 10:02 AM
> > To:	DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject:	[DTXpress] Re: Volume Aux song/ click
> > 
> > OLDGUY
> > I still say choke is available on ALL inputs if the pad type is 
set 
> > for it.... You need to set a pad type that supports choke. from 
the 
> > factory 6, and 7 are set for pcy crash and ride. both support 
choke.
> > Scott
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "oldguydrummer" <rdamon@m...> 
wrote:
> > > Just to make sure I didn't miss something (since my playtime 
with 
> > the 
> > > set is usually between 10pm and 1am) I went back and checked. 
I 
> > > attached a PCY65S and then a PCY80S to zones 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 and 
set 
> > > the trigger and voice to the appropriate settings and choke is 
only 
> > > available on the three zone channels (2,6,7) and not on the 
stereo 
> > > zones 1,3,4,5. Which sucks, because when I had just two 
modules and 
> > > more PCY65s/PCY80s than I had three zone inputs, one of 
cymbals 
> > > didn't have choking. Kinda makes you want to go and "choke" 
somebody 
> > > at Yamaha, since like you said this was available on the 
original 
> > > DTXpress.
> > > 
> > > For those who don't have access to a DTXpressII the basic 
setup from 
> > > the factory is:
> > > 
> > > Zone 1 - Bass (options for setting pad and rim)
> > > Zone 2 - Snare (options for setting pad, rim1 and rim2)
> > > Zone 3 - Tom1 (options for setting pad and rim)
> > > Zone 4 - Tom2 (options for setting pad and rim)
> > > Zone 5 - Tom3 (options for setting pad and rim)
> > > Zone 6 - Ride (options for setting pad, rim1 and rim2)
> > > Zone 7 - Crash (options for setting pad, rim1 and rim2)
> > > Zone 8 - HiHat (options for setting pad and rim opened, 
setting pad 
> > > and rim closed, plus footsplash)
> > > Zone 9/10 - Aux (Single stereo type input jack that will take 
two 
> > > inputs)
> > > HHCTL - For plugging HH65 pedal or similar.
> > > 
> > > Zones 2,6,7 are interchangable for attaching the three zone 
pad TP-
> > > 65s or any stereo cymbols (pad,rim,choke).
> > > 
> > > OldGuyDrummer
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "hairytrigger" <artifax@i...> 
wrote:
> > > > Regarding the choke function only being available on inputs 
2, 6, 
> > > and 
> > > > 7. Is this correct? Or is it that these are the inputs that 
have 
> > > that 
> > > > pad type factory selected. On the DTXpress 1, all inputs can 
have 
> > > > choke, if pad type is set correctly. I think it is the same 
on the 
> > > > xpressII.
> > > > Scott
> > > > 
> > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, rdamon@m... wrote:
> > > > > fxsran,
> > > > > 
> > > > > I am assuming you have a DTXPRESSII. I believe (from 
memory) 
> > > there   
> > > > are
> > > > > three volume knobs on the front of the DtxpressII, overall 
> > volume 
> > > > out, click
> > > > > volume, song volume and aux input volume.   The song 
volume is 
> > > > adjusted by
> > > > > the "Accomp Vol" knob on the front of the module. This will
> > > > > increase/decrease volume of song you are playing too. The 
choke 
> > > > function is
> > > > > only available on zones 2, 6 & 7 and you must use a stereo 
cable 
> > > to 
> > > > connect
> > > > > the pad and the pad type needs to be set for a PCY65S and 
not 
> > the 
> > > > PCY65.
> > > > > Ditto, what Ed said about the "live" and "practice" mode.
> > > > > Hopes this helps.
> > > > > 
> > > > > OldGuyDrummer
> > > > > 
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From:       liberatusvirus [SMTP:liberatusvirus@y...]
> > > > > > Sent:       Monday, April 21, 2003 4:19 PM
> > > > > > To:       DTXpress@yahoogroups.com
> > > > > > Subject:       [DTXpress] Re: Volume Aux song/ click
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Hi fxsran (how do you pronounce that?),
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Dumb answers are what you've gotta watch out for. Here 
comes 
> > > one 
> > > > > > now, I think. First of all, you can't adjust the 
relative 
> > > balance 
> > > > of 
> > > > > > song and drums inside the brain, except incidentally by 
> > > fiddling 
> > > > > > with the volume of individual triggers in the voice menu 
or 
> > the 
> > > > > > volume of the entire kit in the utility menu. The reason 
why 
> > > you 
> > > > can 
> > > > > > only affect the snare and kick via the knobs on the 
front 
> > panel 
> > > > now 
> > > > > > is that you probably have the utility menu's volume 
control 
> > > mode 
> > > > set 
> > > > > > to "live" instead of "practice." If you switch the 
setting, 
> > the 
> > > > > > accomp knob will take care of the song level and the 
click 
> > > knob, 
> > > > > > the . . . click level. Pressing the shift button while 
turning 
> > > > those 
> > > > > > knobs in the practice setting will get you the snare and 
kick, 
> > > > > > respectively. By the way, the aux volume knob controls 
the 
> > > volume 
> > > > of 
> > > > > > only an external device connected via aux input beside 
it. You 
> > > can 
> > > > > > find the explanation in the manual somewhere in 
the "About the 
> > > > Song" 
> > > > > > section. Let us know if that isn't the problem.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On the choke function, the parameter "pad type" in the 
trigger 
> > > > menu 
> > > > > > determines what kind of response you'll get from 
individual 
> > > > > > triggers. You might have accidentally set the pad type 
for the 
> > > > > > cymbal in question incorrectly, resulting in the loss of 
the 
> > > choke 
> > > > > > function. I forget which type disables the choke, but it 
> > > shouldn't 
> > > > > > take long finding out.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Ed
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "fxsran" <fxsan@m...> 
wrote:
> > > > > > >    Hi guys,
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Im a newbie here, ive had by kit for a month now and 
i'm 
> > down 
> > > > with 
> > > > > > a 
> > > > > > > problem already. I cant adjust the volume of the Aux 
or the 
> > > > click 
> > > > > > > from the brain. Everytime if i play along with the 
presets 
> > > song 
> > > > > > the 
> > > > > > > volume seems to be too loud and drowning my kit . My 
Shift 
> > > > button 
> > > > > > on 
> > > > > > > the panel dont seem to work. i can only adjust the 
volume of 
> > > the 
> > > > > > > snare and the kick from the panel button.. i guess i 
must 
> > > have 
> > > > > > done 
> > > > > > > something wrong or just plain dumb.. 
> > > > > > > Also I seem to have lost the choking effect on my 
crash 
> > > cymbals.
> > > > > > > Is there anything in the settings that i might have 
> > > accidentally 
> > > > > > > turned off..
> > > > > > > anyone care to help me out? Thanks in advance
> > > > > > > My apologies if my questions are just too dumb..
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
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