Dan, you could still have your "kizz" kit, but any pads connected to the pm-16 will have the same sound weather you use the "kizz" kit or the "chick magnet" kit. If you have three different pads connected to the pm-16 and all three are different pitches of cowbells, then they're gonna be cowbells no matter what user defined kit you choose. --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Rodriguez" <rbdaniel@b...> wrote: > Hello > > Hmm! Interesting!! > Well Originally I had considered buying 3 cymbals (real ones) and used the extra ports to add 3 more toms.. > Since I have 6 pads sitting around this would allow me to add a lot of sounds.. > The idea of having 16 more inputs to set-up sound is great; I would not care if they can be changed later or not, as long as I can assign a sound to it. > For what I just gathered:I would have to keep the original kits (sets) in the Yamaha module? > What about the ones that I have changed. > Say I had saved setting "KIZZ" where I have some pads assign a "rock" sound and no cowbell, Can I still use this kit? > > Thanks Guys > > This is more interesting that I would have thought.... > Chicks magnet!! VERY COOL > Daniel > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: liberatusvirus > To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 3:23 PM > Subject: [DTXpress] Re: pm-16 > > > UNH, > > That's how I do it, too. We talked about a month or two ago. But > doesn't the PM-16 allow you program multiple kits, or banks, that > you could change when you change kits on the DTX module? > > Ed > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "underneathheaven" <realvast@s...> > wrote: > > I used to worry about not being able to have a different sound on > > every user defined kit until I discussed it with someone on here. > > What I do now is keep all my "aux" percussion connected to the PM- > > 16. I mean if I have a crash I really like connected to the pm-16 > > because I wanna use it all the time no matter what kit I'm dealing > > with. Stuff that changes all the time I connect to my module. If > I > > used a gong or cowbell for example I would connect those sounds to > > the pm-16 because they don't change very often for me. Toms and > > crap like that do so they are always connected to my module. Dont > > let this minor flaw stop you from buying one. Its worth it to > have > > 16 more pads, a monster set, and all the chicks after the > gig! :) > > > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Walt" <wgardus@y...> wrote: > > > Hi Daniel, > > > > > > It has 16 inputs, and you are right - it is connected via a midi > > > cable to the Yamaha module. There are some limitations that you > > need > > > to be aware of though, like the fact that within the DTXpress > you > > can > > > not assign sounds in user kit definitions for the pads connected > > via > > > a PM-16 - the sounds for those pads will be the same in all of > the > > > user kits. In other words, if you assign a cowbell sound for > the > > pad > > > connected to input 1 on the PM-16, it will be a cowbell sound in > > all > > > of the user xpress kits. This is not a limitation of the PM- 16 > > per > > > se, but is one of the environment. This is one reason why some > > folks > > > prefer a second module instead of a pad to midi interface. > > > > > > There are others in the group that can provide more opinions on > > this > > > too - come on, speak up! > > > > > > Walt > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Rodriguez" > > <rbdaniel@b...> > > > wrote: > > > > Hello Walt > > > > > > > > Would I be able to use the extra pads I have? How many max? > > > > For What you say the whole thing is piggy-back back to the > > Yamaha > > > module right? I take it through the Midi interface, right? I > know > > I > > > am a bundle of questions.. The thing is that I have seen a few > PM- > > 16 > > > for sale in Ebay and got me thinking.. :) Hey, anything to get > the > > > brain cells I got left to fire up.. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Daniel > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Walt > > > > To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com > > > > Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 10:39 AM > > > > Subject: [DTXpress] Re: pm-16 > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Daniel, > > > > > > > > A PM-16 is a triggee to midi interface device. Think of it > as > > > being > > > > 1/2 of a module - it converts pad hits to a midi note > number, > > > then > > > > sends that note number to another midi device to convert > into > > > > sounds. Inside the Yamaha modules a very similar thing > > happens > > > > between the trigger and voice sections of the module. > > > > > > > > It is one way to expand the available inputs, adding a > second > > > module > > > > is another way. Both have their pros and cons - I had a pm- > 16 > > > for my > > > > kit but now use 2 modules instead. > > > > > > > > Walt > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Daniel Rodriguez" > > > <rbdaniel@b...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Hello Everyone > > > > > > > > > > I was reading your emails on the PM-16. I am not familiar > > with > > > it, > > > > but for what I gather is a cheaper way to get more pads > > > installed. I > > > > am correct to think that I could add, say.. 6 or 8 more pads > > to > > > the > > > > kit? Is the PM-16 a drum pad like the ddpad DD-55? I am > asking > > > > because I have like 6 more pads sitting around waiting for > > > another > > > > drum module that I would love to put to good use at a > > sensitive > > > $$... > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > Daniel Rodriguez > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: underneathheaven > > > > > To: DTXpress@yahoogroups.com > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 5:15 PM > > > > > Subject: [DTXpress] Re: pm-16 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey Scott, got yourself a PM-16 eh? Me too! Along with > > > > frustration > > > > > but that was cured with the help of this fierce group > and > > a > > > call > > > > > with Martin from Yamaha. To fix the problem is simple, > > but > > > it > > > > > requires a factory reset of your dtxpress. This factory > > > reset > > > > will > > > > > set all the midi stuff the way it needs to be set (in > the > > > utility > > > > > mode) and then while in utility mode you can set the > midi > > > notes > > > > to > > > > > whatever you want, while using a predefined kit, like > kit > > > number > > > > one > > > > > for example. Now in the PM-16 you need to be in Midi > > Channel > > > 10, > > > > > and Midi Prog. #1 ch. 10. The midi note number is > > whatever > > > > number > > > > > you selected in the dtxpress to use as your extra > input. > > > Martin > > > > > suggested starting at 56 or somewhere around there as > long > > as > > > the > > > > > midi note number already as a sound set to it, no matter > > what > > > the > > > > > sound is. You cannot use a midi note number that is set > > > as "not > > > > > assigned." These type of midi numbers start appearing > > quite > > > > early > > > > > in the dtxpress so you don't have to go all the way to > 56 > > > like I > > > > > did. Once you have the correct midi note number > selected > > in > > > the > > > > > dtxpress and also set in the pm-16, you can go about > > > selecting > > > > > volume and pan and decay or whatever for whatever sound > > you > > > > want. > > > > > (All this is done in the utility mode of the dtxpress > and > > > advance > > > > > mode of the PM-16.) If we need to we can compare all > the > > PM- > > > 16 > > > > > settings. I actually did a factory reset on PM-16 as > > well. > > > I > > > > wrote > > > > > this in a hurry and not in great detail because I think > > you > > > know > > > > > what your doing and can figure it out fairly easily with > > > these > > > > > instructions. If you need more help let us know and > I'll > > > respond > > > > in > > > > > more detail but right now I gotta go. Also, what number > > do > > > you > > > > have > > > > > lighted up in green on your LCD screen? Mine says > > 84...don't > > > > know > > > > > why. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" > > > > > <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote: > > > > > > Scott, > > > > > > > > > > > > As far as I know, Underneathheaven's PM-16 is working > > out > > > ok. > > > > > Maybe > > > > > > you could drop him a line and copy his settings. > > Otherwise > > > I am > > > > > sure > > > > > > that a fix exists; the dreaded piano sounds were a > very > > > popular > > > > > > topic for months. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ed > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "hairytrigger" > > > <artifax@i...> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > Hi guys > > > > > > > I have finally gotten around to hooking up my pm- 16. > I > > > have > > > > the > > > > > > > original DTXpress. I get the same thing I read > about. > > > Sounds > > > > > like > > > > > > a > > > > > > > piano note on all channels. No sound at all on CH > 10. > > I > > > had > > > > > > printed > > > > > > > all the posts re: this issue, and tried everything. > no > > > luck. > > > > Did > > > > > > > anyone figure this out? > > > > > > > Scott > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > > > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Community email addresses: > > > > > Post message: DTXpress@onelist.com > > > > > Subscribe: DTXpress-subscribe@onelist.com > > > > > Unsubscribe: DTXpress-unsubscribe@onelist.com > > > > > List owner: DTXpress-owner@onelist.com > > > > > > > > > > Shortcut URL to this page: > > > > > http://www.onelist.com/community/DTXpress > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms > > of > > > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! 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Re: pm-16
2003-04-03 by underneathheaven