Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Bas,

It will certainly be interesting to see how you solve the problem. 
As you say, some people buy a second module--often a discontinued 
one from Yamaha, Alesis, or Roland--and some connect a midi 
interface with its own inputs, allowing extra pads to use the sounds 
in the dtx module. I don't think that you'll be able to break into 
the module to create another input, but then again, I don't have an 
electronics degree. Keep us informed.

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "drumsix12" <sixpack1@w...> wrote:
> Ed,
> 
> you're right. It starting to annoy me already.
> I'm a It technician with an Electrnics degree (hope I say it right 
in 
> english) so I'm already thinking of solution somehow.
> The simple way is to buy an extra Module, but like all the others, 
we 
> don't like to pay a lot of money for a simple solution.
> 
> When i have a solution I will mail you and the group with it.
> 
> It's also not that big of a problem, I use the kit only for 
practice 
> with the band. On live gigs I only use part of the kit for some 
> sampling an alternative sounds for songs like U2, beautiful day.
> 
> Again, thanks for your clear help and hope to hear from you in the 
> future.
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
> <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > Bas,
> > 
> > If you're like many of us, someday that unused section of the 
> barpad 
> > will start to gnaw at you, and you'll get an unconrollable urge 
for 
> > more inputs. Or maybe not. We'll see. 
> > 
> > Ed
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "drumsix12" <sixpack1@w...> 
wrote:
> > > Aha,
> > > 
> > > now I get the picture.
> > > Thanks very much for your response.
> > > I alaways thougth that a dualt trigger pad just had two 
triggers 
> > in 
> > > it, but that is not the case.
> > > 
> > > Well, it's solved now, Thanks very much for the outline.
> > > 
> > > The only problem I now have is that I can only use one pad of 
my 
> > bar 
> > > pad. But than again, I have one ride cymbal and two crash 
cymbals 
> > and 
> > > that was the main idea.
> > > 
> > > Thanks Jim and Ed for your response.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Bas
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
> > > <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > > Bas,
> > > > 
> > > > Someone else had a similar question back in 1872, I think. I 
> > give 
> > > > you my answer from that era, because my brain seemed to be 
> > working 
> > > > better then than it is now. The answer to your question 
> revolves 
> > > > around the difference between piezo triggers and membrane 
> > switches.
> > > > 
> > > > Input 9/10 will handle two mono FSRs or two piezos but not 
one 
> > > piezo 
> > > > and one membrane switch from a "stereo" pad or cymbal, 
because 
> > > > stereo pads and inputs have a totally different electronic 
> > makeup 
> > > > than their dual-zone, or mono, counterparts. Inputs 1-8, as 
> > > > combinations of 1 piezo/1 (or 2) membrane switches (or 
FSRs), 
> > would 
> > > > seem, in principle, to permit a triggering opportunity for 
the 
> > two 
> > > > independent FSRs of a BP 80 or its equivalent if you could 
just 
> > get 
> > > > to them. The problem is that membrane switches on stereo 
pads 
> > are 
> > > > not independent triggers. Their open and closed positions 
> > > (membranes 
> > > > are basically open/close toggles) determine what sound the 
> piezo 
> > is 
> > > > going to make--whether the sound programed to the rim, the 
> body, 
> > or 
> > > > a choke; the switches are, if you will, slaves to the piezo. 
> The 
> > > > timing of how the interaction between them takes place, not 
to 
> > > > mention the delicacy of their relative physical locations in 
> the 
> > > > pad, is complicated. But the upshot is that creative cabling 
> > won't 
> > > > help you; those inputs are  by nature single piezo inputs. 
You 
> > > can't 
> > > > treat the "stereo" or "trio" inputs as taking multiple mono 
> > feeds, 
> > > > whether piezos or FSRs. 
> > > > 
> > > > Ed
> > > > 
> > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "drumsix12" <sixpack1@w...> 
> > wrote:
> > > > > Thanks jim,
> > > > > 
> > > > > that's clear.
> > > > > 
> > > > > But can you tell me why that is.
> > > > > Isn't it that a stereo pad is nothing else than a pad with 
> two 
> > > > > triggers in it.
> > > > > It also has two connections (stereo jack) so what's the 
> > > difference 
> > > > > (elctrical) between a stereo pad and for instance a bar 
pad.
> > > > > How does the module see wether it's a stereo pad or two 
> > > individual 
> > > > > pads.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > > 
> > > > > bas
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Ratzo <ratzo@t...> wrote:
> > > > > > On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 09:53:31 -0000, you wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > >What my intention was, is that I plug the KP65 into 
> trigger 
> > 1.
> > > > > > >When i hit the base it would be pad1, and when i hit 
the 
> > extra 
> > > > pad 
> > > > > > >connected to the input on the kp65 it should be RIM1.
> > > > > > >The rim1 never worked on the KP65. The odd thing is 
that 
> > when 
> > > I 
> > > > > > >connect a tp80s pas (dual trigger) to input 1, it all 
> works 
> > > > > fine.The 
> > > > > > >normal pad is pad1, and the rimshot in the pad is 
> > rim1.......
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >So, I'm confused here. Apparently there is a great 
> > difference 
> > > > > between 
> > > > > > >the electrical inputs on the tp80s and the KP65.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > It's simple.  You can't have one pad trigger pad1 and 
> > another 
> > > pad
> > > > > > trigger rim1.  To trigger the pad and rim on any input, 
you 
> > > have 
> > > > to
> > > > > > use a stereo pad like the TP80S.  Input 9/10 can not be 
> > > > triggered by
> > > > > > the rim of a stereo pad.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > ____________________________
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Jim