Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

Aha,

now I get the picture.
Thanks very much for your response.
I alaways thougth that a dualt trigger pad just had two triggers in 
it, but that is not the case.

Well, it's solved now, Thanks very much for the outline.

The only problem I now have is that I can only use one pad of my bar 
pad. But than again, I have one ride cymbal and two crash cymbals and 
that was the main idea.

Thanks Jim and Ed for your response.


Bas


--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "liberatusvirus" 
<liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> Bas,
> 
> Someone else had a similar question back in 1872, I think. I give 
> you my answer from that era, because my brain seemed to be working 
> better then than it is now. The answer to your question revolves 
> around the difference between piezo triggers and membrane switches.
> 
> Input 9/10 will handle two mono FSRs or two piezos but not one 
piezo 
> and one membrane switch from a "stereo" pad or cymbal, because 
> stereo pads and inputs have a totally different electronic makeup 
> than their dual-zone, or mono, counterparts. Inputs 1-8, as 
> combinations of 1 piezo/1 (or 2) membrane switches (or FSRs), would 
> seem, in principle, to permit a triggering opportunity for the two 
> independent FSRs of a BP 80 or its equivalent if you could just get 
> to them. The problem is that membrane switches on stereo pads are 
> not independent triggers. Their open and closed positions 
(membranes 
> are basically open/close toggles) determine what sound the piezo is 
> going to make--whether the sound programed to the rim, the body, or 
> a choke; the switches are, if you will, slaves to the piezo. The 
> timing of how the interaction between them takes place, not to 
> mention the delicacy of their relative physical locations in the 
> pad, is complicated. But the upshot is that creative cabling won't 
> help you; those inputs are  by nature single piezo inputs. You 
can't 
> treat the "stereo" or "trio" inputs as taking multiple mono feeds, 
> whether piezos or FSRs. 
> 
> Ed
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "drumsix12" <sixpack1@w...> wrote:
> > Thanks jim,
> > 
> > that's clear.
> > 
> > But can you tell me why that is.
> > Isn't it that a stereo pad is nothing else than a pad with two 
> > triggers in it.
> > It also has two connections (stereo jack) so what's the 
difference 
> > (elctrical) between a stereo pad and for instance a bar pad.
> > How does the module see wether it's a stereo pad or two 
individual 
> > pads.
> > 
> > Thanks in advance.
> > 
> > bas
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Ratzo <ratzo@t...> wrote:
> > > On Mon, 24 Mar 2003 09:53:31 -0000, you wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > >What my intention was, is that I plug the KP65 into trigger 1.
> > > >When i hit the base it would be pad1, and when i hit the extra 
> pad 
> > > >connected to the input on the kp65 it should be RIM1.
> > > >The rim1 never worked on the KP65. The odd thing is that when 
I 
> > > >connect a tp80s pas (dual trigger) to input 1, it all works 
> > fine.The 
> > > >normal pad is pad1, and the rimshot in the pad is rim1.......
> > > >
> > > >So, I'm confused here. Apparently there is a great difference 
> > between 
> > > >the electrical inputs on the tp80s and the KP65.
> > > 
> > > It's simple.  You can't have one pad trigger pad1 and another 
pad
> > > trigger rim1.  To trigger the pad and rim on any input, you 
have 
> to
> > > use a stereo pad like the TP80S.  Input 9/10 can not be 
> triggered by
> > > the rim of a stereo pad.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ____________________________
> > > 
> > > Jim