Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

I like this lay out..it is very similar to the
computer forum I belong to.  I am just worried that
this group may split in two-we should ALL move
together, or all STAY together.  Who will be running
this group on the new layout?  I really don't want it
resting on one person's shoulders, as things happen in
life, and if your personal situation changes, and you
can't devote anymore time to this forum, would we be
hurt, would it fold? Or is this gonna be pretty much
on it's own, not needing constant moderating by the
administrator?  I just want to be able to rely on the
consistency of the DTX group, these guys in this Yahoo
forum have pulled me out of the gutter many times.  I
will go with the consensus, and I think we should run
a poll for a few weeks, and go from there. I REALLY
like your lay out.  It is very orderly and easy to
work with.  Thanks for your ideas and
contributions...if it all works out, we can let Dave
Jewell and Dave Kscyki @ Yamaha know where we moved
the forum, as they monitor it from time to time.  Any
help I might be able to give you if the group decides
to move, let me know...but I would like the WHOLE
group to move-yahoo would no longer be associated
w/the DTX forum.
Jade
--- Vernon Graner <vern@...> wrote:
> Hi Jade, I do agree and there is no way I would
> contribute to some type
> of splitting of the power of the group. Thats why I
> responded as I did
> before and why I want to see if the users here would
> help in crafting a
> solution to move the board up to a more professional
> level. To be honest,
> if there is no consensus, I'm just gunna stay with
> the status quo as I
> can stand Yahoo if I have to, this group is too
> valuable as a resource
> for all involved. I am just tyring to offer to move
> us up a level to
> something a bit more professional. I won't repeat
> the other long winded
> post, but I am interested in feedback from all of
> the users since this
> will be about serving the entire community.
> 
> If you haaven't looked yet, I invite you to visit
> the prototype
> domain/group I have set up here:
> 
> http://www.dtxpressions.com/phpbb
> 
> and the main site here:
> 
> http://www.dtxpressions.com
> 
> and let me know what you think of it. :)
> 
> Vern
> 
> -- 
> Vern Graner CNE/CNA/SSE     | "If the network is
> down, then you're
> Senior Systems Engineer     | obviously incompetent
> so why are we
> Texas Information Services  | paying you? Of course,
> if the network
> vern@... www.txis.com  | is up, then we
> obviously don't need
> Cell 507-7851 Desk 328-8947 | you, so why are we
> paying you?" VLG
> 
> 
> 
> Jade said:
> > Guys...in light of Ed's comments...I have only one
> > word for Ed's responsa-and that is AMEN!!!  I am
> > LIVING PROOF that Yamaha LISTENS and OBSERVES this
> > forum.  WE ARE KNOWN TO those who work at
> Yamaha-and
> > those folks have CLOUT!!  To dilute ourselves
> would be
> > shooting ourselves in the foot-I for one will stay
> in
> > this forum-are adds annoying? Yes! Constantly
> having
> > to log in a pain? Yes!  But this forums deals with
> > YAMAHA modules and e drums-it is one voice that
> has
> > come to my rescue, and one voice who has the
> attention
> > of Yamaha's ear!
> > Jade
> > --- liberatusvirus <liberatusvirus@...>
> wrote:
> >> Vern,
> >>
> >> Your proposed alternative to the Yahoo board
> would
> >> undoubtedly be an
> >> improvement in many important respects. It's much
> >> more along the
> >> lines of the unofficial vdrums forum, which is a
> >> very informative,
> >> and classy setup. My sole concern is this: Yamaha
> is
> >> aware of this
> >> group. Just months after it was established in
> late
> >> 1999, it
> >> achieved a certain credibility with the company
> >> because of the
> >> intelligent questions and comments that emanated
> >> from it.
> >> Apparently, Dave Jewell has been known to check
> it
> >> out from time to
> >> time, especially, shall we say, in times of
> stress.
> >> I'm not claiming
> >> that the board has the undivided attention of
> >> Yamaha's management;
> >> it's definitely well on the peripery. But it does
> >> have a presence,
> >> and our recent telephone foray into the hierarchy
> >> has given it
> >> renewed notoriety. I doubt very much that the
> vdrums
> >> forum has
> >> anywhere near the contact with Roland that this
> one
> >> has with Yamaha.
> >>
> >> The Yahoo board is now 600 strong. If there's an
> >> exodus, some people
> >> will undoubtedly stay behind. I don't know how
> many,
> >> but it always
> >> happens. That will mean that the membership of
> 600
> >> will get diluted.
> >> Some of us would like to see this group, or
> whatever
> >> group takes its
> >> place, become even more significant in Yamaha's
> >> e-drum plans. If
> >> that is ever to happen, the numbers will matter.
> >> Also, the more we
> >> become a moving target, the less chance we may
> have
> >> to solidify our
> >> position.  Would it be unthinkable for Yamaha to
> >> search out a new
> >> group if it forms, or to file the new web address
> >> away somewhere in
> >> case they want to check it out? No, but I'm not
> sure
> >> that even so
> >> seemingly innocuous a change as a splintered
> board
> >> wouldn't be an
> >> excuse for them to lose any interest that they
> might
> >> have now. As I
> >> said, we're on the periphery. These are delicate
> >> times for e-drums,
> >> especially Yamaha, which has discontinued two of
> its
> >> three lines. I
> >> would like to see this group become a testing
> ground
> >> of sorts for
> >> Yamaha's ideas. I don't know if it will happen,
> but
> >> I don't want to
> >> risk anything that might diffuse its input. As a
> >> related case in
> >> point, we managed to get Visu-lite, a small
> company,
> >> to make a
> >> product solely for owners of Yamaha modules. This
> >> was no meant feat,
> >> and it happened, in part, because we could point
> to
> >> a large number
> >> of possibly interested people in one place who
> would
> >> become aware of
> >> it in one fell swoop.
> >>
> >> Your proposal is enormously tempting, but I think
> >> these points
> >> should be taken into consideration.
> >>
> >> Ed
> >>
> >> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "Vernon Graner"
> >> <vern@t...> wrote:
> >> > Just turn OFF HTML when reading your messages.
> It
> >> makes it (barely)
> >> > bearable. :)
> >> >
> >> > I've been thinking about adding a mailing list
> or
> >> message board to
> >> the
> >> > DTXpressions.com website to offer up as a
> >> replacement since I'm
> >> not a big
> >> > fan of Yahoo anyway... How many of you think
> the
> >> embedded ads are
> >> > intrusive enough to justify a move?
> >> >
> >> > Vern
> >> >
> >> > PS: to see a prototype of the message base I'm
> >> talking about, go
> >> here:
> >> >
> >> > http://www.dtxpressions.com/phpbb
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Vern Graner CNE/CNA/SSE     | "If the network
> is
> >> down, then you're
> 
=== message truncated ===


__________________________________________________
Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more
http://taxes.yahoo.com/