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Re: MidiKITI Programming Help...ED...HELP!!

2003-02-18 by liberatusvirus <liberatusvirus@yahoo.com>

We're getting there. 

> PS...one more thing....I unplugged the ride from the
> KITI and plugged it into input 2 on KITI...I am still
> getting the tom sound...that WASN'T a high pitched
> noise I heard...it was a tom voice.  So my pad 9 that
> was my 3rd tom is now on my RIDE...I can't change the
> note number on the KITI...it keeps flashing 1-1-3
> instead of 0-2-4 or 0-2-6....It's gotta be something I
> am doing wrong with the DTX.

It doesn't matter which input on the kiti you're using; the midi 
note number gets transferred to the kiti's active input, which you 
select either by hitting the pad connected to it or scrolling 
through the inputs (the green lights) manually on the kiti keyboard.
 
> UT MAP N=65F...C/026 Rider3

This is the only setting that matters for getting the midi note 
information from the DTX to the kiti. Midi note number 65 also has 
to show up as the note number for pad 9 when you check in the voice 
menu of kit 80. If so, save kit 80 with the button on the front of 
the module. If not, don't do anything else until you make these 
numbers match; if 65 turns out not to work, try other numbers. Save 
kit 80 when you've arrived at a viable note number for C/026 on 
input 9, just to make sure that you don't change anything by 
mistake. (Acoustic kit 1 is irrelevant to what we're doing. If you 
set up the note number for the ride on the kiti correctly, you'll 
get the same ride sound for the visulite, no matter what kit on the 
DTX you happen to be using).
 
To keep it simple on the kiti, disconnect everything but the 
visulite bow. Hit the visulite to select its input. Now, 
press "AUTO" to make "midi note number" the active parameter; three 
red lights corresponding to a midi note number (probably not yours) 
should be blinking consecutively, with a pause between each complete 
cycle. Making sure that your foot is not on either the hi hat 
controller or the kick pedal, hit pad 9, C/026, in kit 80; don't 
accidentally hit any other pad afterward. After recognizing the 
default channel 10, the kiti red lights should start to register 0-6-
5, or whatever your final midi note number turned out to be in the 
DTX utility menu. If the correct number flashes, you can continue 
to "Gain Auto Train" on p. 34 to adjust the triggers. If it doesn't, 
it's back to the DTX to figure out why. 


> 
> 
> --- jadeiebooshkie <jadiebooshkie@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Here's what I have done... I changed my user kit
> > number to 80-went into voice and copied the ride
> > setting to pad 9...when I hit pad 9 it sounds like a
> > ride...the Visulite is plugged into KITI input 1.  I
> > went into UTILITY Voice here are my settings:
> > UT MAP N=10A#-2
> > C=/024
> > I then went to the KITI and pressed AUTO TRAIN-hit
> > pad
> > #9 and the numbers blinking were 1-1-3!!!  I tapped
> > the Visulite (plugged into KITI) and the friggin'
> > thing sounds like a high pitched bell/ then it
> > sounded
> > like pad#9's original setting in my user kit...which
> > was a 3rd tom!!  WHAT the hell am I doing
> > wrong...also...should I copy this UT MAP Copy from=1
> > Acoustic kit??
> > How do I move the cymbal from user kit 80 to the
> > KITI...and WHY is it flashing a 1-1-3 instead of the
> > 0-2-4 that I assigned pad 9?  Am I doing something
> > wrong w/ programming the KITI?....Jade
> > --- "liberatusvirus <liberatusvirus@y...>"
> > <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > For once, we're getting more snow than you, but
> > you
> > > may have more Al-
> > > Quaeda cells. Comments follow:
> > > 
> > > > Now that UTILITY MODE...on the MAP...the Page
> > > you're
> > > > referring to is it  under section 5-1.
> > > > UT MAP N=   OC-2
> > > > =K/000  NO ASSIGN? 
> > > 
> > > That's it.
> > > 
> > > > So while I am on this MAP Page, I would set the
> > > note
> > > > number for the ride bow (on my user kit I
> > created,
> > > I
> > > > have note #49 Category 040)  RIGHT NOW I HAVE
> > > NOTHING
> > > > PLUGGED INTO OUTLET 6 ON THE DTX, so I would
> > have
> > > to
> > > > assign this cymbal sound to pad#9.  I could COPY
> > > that
> > > > setting to say INPUT 7, then when and save it to
> > > user
> > > > kit #80?  Am I following you right?
> > > > You say I would have to assign a different note
> > #
> > > > other than the #49 on this UT MAP N= **would the
> > > N= be
> > > > an INPUT or a NOTE NUMBER?  This is where I GET
> > > > CONFUSED....and Where it says K+NO
> > ASSIGN...Would
> > > I
> > > > assign whatever the 040 Ride cymbal is or would
> > > that
> > > > be the input number?  Please be patient with me,
> > I
> > > > KNOW I am DENSE, just wish it would come faster
> > > for
> > > > me...will wait for your response...
> > > 
> > > The "N=" setting is for midi note number. Stay on
> > > that line for a 
> > > moment. As you scroll up from 0, you'll notice
> > that
> > > the module 
> > > notifies you when midi numbers are unavailable
> > > because they already 
> > > have a preset use. I forget the exact terminology
> > > (I'm flying blind 
> > > here; I don't have the module). When you get to
> > the
> > > first midi 
> > > number that comes up as available, stay with it
> > (and
> > > remember it). 
> > > It might be around 15; that will be the note
> > number
> > > for the cymbal 
> > > voice that we're about to assign. Go to the next
> > > line, "=K/000  NO 
> > > ASSIGN," which means "nothing assigned from the
> > kick
> > > drum list"; 
> > > change the K to C, for cymbal; and write in the
> > > number of the ride 
> > > voice that you want from the list under "C:
> > Cymbal"
> > > in the back of 
> > > the Yamaha manual. This number IS NOT a midi note
> > > number; it is 
> > > simply Yamaha's own notation for voices. The
> > actual
> > > midi note number 
> > > is the one on the line above; it will be the one
> > > that the kat stores 
> > > so that it can access the associated Yamaha cymbal
> > > voice. 
> > > 
> > > Presumably, you have all of your inputs on the DTX
> > > filled; that's 
> > > why you bought the midikiti. Assign the cymbal
> > that
> > > you selected in 
> > > the utility menu (C/???) to one of inputs 2-10 in
> > > the voice menu of 
> > > kit #80; it doesn't matter which one you choose,
> > as
> > > long as it has a 
> > > pad connected to it. Now check to make sure that
> > the
> > > midi note 
> > > number assigned to that cymbal in kit 80's voice
> > > menu is the one 
> > > that you chose in the utility menu. Assuming
> > that's
> > > ok, when you hit 
> > > the pad connected to that input on the DTX, and
> > midi
> > > note is the 
> > > active parameter on the kat, you should see that
> > > note number flash 
> > > on the kat's face. Now you can dive into the kat
> > > manual for gain etc 
> > > and make further parameter adjustments in the
> > > utility menu of the 
> > > DTX, as I outlined in my previous post. Let's stop
> > > right there so 
> > > that you can digest and utilize this info.
> > > 
> > > Here's a brief lesson in terminology. Midi note
> > > numbers stand for a 
> > > particular voice that various midi-capable
> > > instruments and modules 
> > > can use to obtain the same sound. They are not to
> > be
> > > confused with 
> > > the numbers that Yamaha uses to identify the
> > voices
> > > in the back of 
> > > the DTX manual; these numbers apply to the Yamaha
> > > module only. 
> > > 
> > > Confusing fact: Yamaha's midi numbers in the
> > preset
> > > kits are not 
> > > attached to specific voices but to specific
> > inputs.
> > > That is, every 
> > > input from 1-10 in the module has a particular
> > midi
> > > number assigned 
> > > to it. If you don't use the utility menu to assign
> > > specific midi 
> > > note numbers to voices, not inputs, then pads
> > > connected to the kat 
> > > will access different voices when you change kits
> > on
> > > the DTX, even 
> > > though the midi note number stays the same.
> > Remember
> > > it this way: 
> > > The changes in the utility menu release the midi
> > > note numbers from 
> > > the DTX inputs, each of which can have as many
> > > different voices as 
> > > the DTX has kits, and attach them to voices
> > instead,
> > > allowing  
> > > devices like the kat to access only the one
> > desired,
> > > instead of the 
> > > variety of voices associated with a particular
> > input
> > > in all of the 
> > > kits.
> > > 
> > > Ed
> > > 
> > > > --- "liberatusvirus <liberatusvirus@y...>"
> > > > <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Jade,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Snowing enough for ya? I'll answer best as I
> > can
> > > for
> > > > > now below.
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Ed..I want to move my visulite 18 inch ride
> > to
> > > the
> > > > > midiKITI, I 
> > > > > > wanted to use the one sound I have in my
> > 
> === message truncated ===
> 
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