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Re: Rejection Question..and a few more

2003-02-14 by liberatusvirus <liberatusvirus@yahoo.com>

Walt,

We have to stop meeting like this. Between us, something reasonably 
intelligent has to emerge.

Ed

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Walt <wgardus@y...> wrote:
> Hi Jade,
> 
> I think, based on your description, I would be looking
> for something like a bad cable, or something being
> over modulated - if it turns out that crosstalk is
> causing a high pitched squeal, it'll be the first time
> I have seen that!  Here's a thought on how you might
> be able to further isolate it.  If you have a pair of
> open line level outputs on your mixer, and you have at
> least a half way decent recorder (cassette type would
> work), try recording while you're playing.  When you
> hear the distortion rewind the tape and see if it is
> there.  If not, then take those headphones out back
> and nuke 'em!  If you do hear it, then try to record
> from the back of the module.  If you hear it there,
> don't nuke the module, but that at least proves it's
> not the headphones. 
> 
> There are times I would like to be able to layer the
> HH, because I don't like the options available as they
> are, but since we're stuck with one voice, I too live
> with it.  
> 
> On rejection and sensitivity, take a look at post #
> 2391, as well as the thread that post # 2572 is part
> of...
> 
> Walt
> --- "jadiebooshkie <jadiebooshkie@y...>"
> <jadiebooshkie@y...> wrote:
> > Walt...it MAY be my stupid headphones AGAIN!!  I was
> > playing today, 
> > and getting ready to start playing w/MidiKITI, I
> > noticed my bass 
> > drum distorting thru the headphones...I turned the
> > volume down, and 
> > that helps a little.  What may also have been
> > happening was I might 
> > be getting cross talk when all 3 pads were hit from
> > my cymbal 
> > (crash). It was high pitched sounding.  I will be
> > working on the 
> > settings again tonite, and we will see if I can stop
> > this.  I am 
> > running my DTX thru a Peavey RQ200 mixer.
> > So on the HH ...which seems to be the rock in my
> > shoe...all I need 
> > is ONE voice setting another voice is useless?...and
> > what about the 
> > GAIN, and self reject, specific reject?  I have
> > these both set to 1 
> > and to reject the snare.  I ran into my HH not
> > triggering, and 
> > changed the settings...then my snare wouldn't
> > trigger.  Had to 
> > change them back, also.  Thanks for the advice, and
> > Iwill keep 
> > adjusting, the only problems I seem to have is with
> > the HH-snare-
> > BD.  I am hoping that a set of Visu-lite HHs will
> > help eliminate 
> > some of these problems...Jade 
> > 
> > --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, Walt <wgardus@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > OK Jade,
> > > 
> > > Let's see how far I can get before my brain melts
> > down
> > > -   Look below for my thoughts.  Walt
> > > --- "jadiebooshkie <jadiebooshkie@y...>"
> > > <jadiebooshkie@y...> wrote:
> > > > I KNOW I have been told about rejection...I am
> > > > having a time with my 
> > > > snare-HH-and bass drum.  I can't seem to pin
> > point
> > > > WHERE this static 
> > > > sound is coming from(snare/HH/BD).  It seems to
> > > > happen if and when 
> > > > all three are triggered at the same time...so
> > how do
> > > > I set 
> > > > rejections on all three, and what input rejects
> > > > what?  It sounds 
> > > > confusing. 
> > > 
> > > OK, first, you use the word static.  That bothers
> > me
> > > because the rejection settings really prevent you
> > from
> > > hearing a pad's sound when you're not hitting that
> > > pad.    Say, for example, you hit your crash, and
> > you
> > > hear the tom just below it also sound off. 
> > Tweaking
> > > the rejection settings can help that problem.  The
> > key
> > > here is that you will hear another pad's sound,
> > not
> > > static.     Before we go to much further on this
> > one,
> > > can you verify that you're really hearing static,
> > > instead of just using that word to describe
> > something
> > > not working right?  
> > >  
> > > > Tonite I wrote down ALL my custom kit settings
> > on
> > > > that trigger map 
> > > > sheet, and I was reminded about how LITTLE I
> > know
> > > > about this kit.  I 
> > > > wanna hook up my MidiKITI, and plug in the extra
> > > > cymbals and pads, 
> > > > but I feel like I will be opening up a Pandora's
> > > > box, as I still 
> > > > have a TON of learnin' to do on the DTX!! 
> > > 
> > > Don't we all!
> > > 
> > > > Well...ok...that's how I 
> > > > mastered my computer...dealing with problems!
> > I'll
> > > > get the hang of 
> > > > this but it just don't seem to come fast enough!
> > > 
> > > We all had a first time!
> > > 
> > > >   It's having a bunch of great guys in this
> > forum 
> > > > that help thick skulled folks like me finally
> > learn
> > > > what the DTX is 
> > > > all about. Many thanks for your guidance and
> > > > patience. 
> > > 
> > > Ed is blushing!!!
> > > 
> > >  That being 
> > > > said...here goes...
> > > > Some of the note numbers are all used up,
> > > > specifically my HH. In V=1 
> > > > my note is 52, but for V=2 it says "all notes
> > > > taken"...HOW can I 
> > > > reverse that, or delete it from memory and start
> > > > over?
> > > 
> > > The short answer is that the rules for the HH are
> > > different from the rest of the pads - you can only
> > > assign one sound to each of the HH functions
> > (open,
> > > close, splash, foot close).  
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > What is AltG for and what does it DO?  I have
> > most
> > > > of my pads set 
> > > > on  SEMI, except for snare/crash...that is on
> > POLY,
> > > > what does this 
> > > > mean or do?
> > > 
> > > Again, the short answer is that because all of the
> > HH
> > > functions are set to the same Alternate Group
> > )AltG),
> > > only one of them will sound at a time.  For
> > example,
> > > you can't have to Open and close sounds play
> > together,
> > > that wouldn't be natural.  If the open sound is
> > > playing, and you step on the pedal, the DTX will
> > stop
> > > the open sound and start playing the closed sound
> > > instead.  
> > > 
> > > > HOLD is set to OFF on all pads...what would
> > happen
> > > > if I turned it on?
> > > 
> > > The sound will keep playing until you hit the pad
> > > again.
> > > 
> > > > KEY OFF is set to DISABLE...what would happen if
> > it
> > > > is enabled?
> > > 
> > > MIDI terminology is commonly based on Keyboards -
> > a
> > > Key On is what happens when you press down a key
> > on a
> > > keyboard.  Usually you want this to start
> > something
> > > (like a voice or maybe a song).  If you keep
> > holding
> > > that key down, the thing you started should
> > continue. 
> > > Key Off is what happens when you release the key,
> > and
> > > usually you want that to stop whatever you started
> > > when you pressed the key.  Now, if we think in
> > terms
> > > of the DTX, that explanation may lead you to
> > wonder
> > > 'if I have Key Off set to Disable, why don't the
> > > voices all keep playing'?  Most drum sounds are
> > like
> > > digital recordings of real drums, and they do not
> > go
> > > on forever, so this parameter doesn't really
> > impact
> > > them. There are some keyboard voices in the DTX
> > that
> > > if used, with Key Off set to disable, will keep on
> > > playing like the Enegizer Bunny, until you press
> > the
> > > Shift and Voice keys on the DTX to stop them.  
> > > 
> > > > FUNCTION on all pads is set to NORMAL-what's
> > this
> > > > do?
> > > 
> > > You can have pads play sounds (Normal), or control
> > the
> > > playing of one of the internal songs (Pad Song),
> > > control the Click sound (Click On/Off), or the
> > other
> > > stuff in  the manual.
> > > 
> > > > This PAD SONG thing-does that mean if I hit a
> > > > certain pad, that one 
> > 
> === message truncated ===
> 
> 
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