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Re: [DTXpress] Re: accented note on snare don't work while i hit another pad !

2002-11-21 by Walt

Hi Stephane,

Do the ghost notes still work OK when you are playing
the snare by itself?  If so, then the next thing I
will need to look at is some of the snare trigger
settings.  Can you tell me what you have set for the
snare trigger for the Gain, Min. gain, Pad type, Rej,
Self rej and Specific rej?  Also, when you hit the
snare pad as hard as you can, about what level shows
up on the Level Display ( on the screen where you set
the gain - you want to adjust the gain so it shows
about 100% when hit real hard).  Also, what model pad
are you using for your snare?

If it was a bad pad or cable, I would not expect the
soft hits to not work at all, but you could swap the
pad and cable with one of your toms to be sure - these
kits have fooled me before.

I still think this is a trigger setting problem - when
you look at the module from a basic level, it has two
sections - the trigger settings and the voice
settings.  The trigger settings control how the
electronic signals are sensed by the module (which one
was hit, how hard was it hit, what type of pad it is,
that type of thing) - the voice setting determine what
sounds to make when the hit is sensed by the module. 
 
--- dopmi <mapod@...> wrote:
> Hi Walt , i have just reduce like you said the Rej
> parameter of snare 
> pad to 0 and still same problem , i try to reduce to
> only 1 or 2 and 
> still the ghost note of snare don't work while i hti
> another pad , i 
> have wrote on paper the default setting of those
> parameter to not 
> have to reset again but as even with 0 on rej
> parameter on snare pad 
> and problem still here is it really a trigger
> parameter problem ? 
> 
> > Do not feel alone, I have been fighting trigger
> > problems all week too.
> 
> that make me feel less alone ;-))
> 
> Thank's for you help 
> Stephane
> 
> 
> --- In DTXpress@y..., Walt <wgardus@y...> wrote:
> > Hi Stephane,
> > 
> > Isn't it fun to try to get your kit set up right? 
> 
> > 
> > First, if ghost notes are working OK when you play
> > only the snare, that that tells us you should have
> > enough sensitivity to pick up those easy hits. 
> This
> > may not mean that you may not need to raise the
> > sensitivity later, but for now leave it where you
> have
> > it.  If ghost notes are not working properly when
> you
> > play only the snare, then you may want to increase
> the
> > gain in the trigger settings until ghost notes do
> > work.
> > 
> > The next thing to look at, now that the ghost
> notes
> > are not working when you hit other pads, should be
> the
> > rejection parameter (not self rej or specific
> rej)-
> > which is the only rejection parameter that impacts
> the
> > playing of all other pads.  Yesterday, when the
> > problem was only when you played the HH, we only
> > looked at specificific rejection.
> > 
> > I would change the Rej parameter in the snare
> trigger
> > settings to 0, then try playing ghost notes and
> other
> > pads to see if they work.  If they do, then I
> would
> > play hard on the other pads to see if the snare
> > triggers from the other pads vibrations.  If it
> does,
> > then I would increase the value of the rejection
> by 1,
> > and try again.  
> > 
> > Do not feel alone, I have been fighting trigger
> > problems all week too.
> > 
> > Walt
> > --- dopmi <mapod@w...> wrote:
> > > i finaly reset all and now it's not only between
> > > snare and hit hat 
> > > that ghost snare don't work sometime but when i
> play
> > > snare with any 
> > > other pad ... ;-((( , strange cause it's not the
> > > first time i 
> > > practice ghost note and i never had this problem
> > > before , that may be 
> > > a snare pad problem ?
> > > Stephane
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In DTXpress@y..., Jim Tonak <ratzo@t...>
> wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 08:43:24 +0100, you wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > >And that is less of a disaster if you use
> > > DTXChange to backup your 
> > > settings
> > > > >over a MIDI link ;-)
> > > > 
> > > > Yeah, that's something I'd really like to
> have.  I
> > > need to get a
> > > > cable.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Jim
> > > > ratzo@t...
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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