Yamaha DTXpress/DTXplorer/DTXtreme

--- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "emf" <liberatusvirus@y...> wrote:
> 
> --- In DTXpress@yahoogroups.com, "zapaxe" <a_zapelectric@h...> 
wrote:
> > The DM Pro is 20 bit. Now although one may not hear the 
difference, 
> > how hard can it be to impliment a higher sample rate! I suspect 
> > Yamaha just recycles samples they already have. But it's said 
that 
> > one you get the sounds in a DAW envirenment, every single 
> > calculation from the FX's down to the fader movements degrade 
the 
> > audio quality. Of course using midi till mix down would remedy 
this 
> > issue.
> 
> Personally, I wish that every module under the sun were at least 
24 
> bit, 96khz. In theory, Yamaha is perfectly capable of it, but I 
> suspect that they are in arrears with their designs, their new 
items 
> actually sitting around for a while before they see the light of 
day. 
> This may be more true, or more unfortunate, for the new Xtreme, 
> which, despite the good stuff that it offers, is also backdated in 
> its smart card and its digital engine. (By the way, it does take 
> samples, as does the ddrum4, although neither is equipped to 
handle 
> them easily or prodigiously. See the manuals.)
> > I had contacted Yamaha quite a while back (as if it matters or 
> > helps) and made some suggestions and requests.
> > Keeping OT here, one of my suggestions was to have a drum module 
> > that could be loaded with drum & cymbal samples from a high 
quality 
> > sample CD. This would take care of the complication somewhat & 
the 
> > portability issues. Of course then 3, 4 years later they bring 
us 
> > the DTXtreme II module, but I'm not sure it loads these 
> > samples...Does it??? 
> 
> Yes, it does.
> 
> > DM Pro manual (as I just read it moments ago) by 
> > using "SoundBridge"  software I can burn samples from any source 
to 
> > a flash RAM card and bring it in the DM Pro. There was also a 
> > mention of Digidesign "Sample Cell" which in addition can create 
> > volocities along with the "SoundBridge" software - I could be 
wrong 
> > about needing "SampleCell" for this. 
> > This sounds very exciting!...And a little more complicated. It 
> seems 
> > that the DM Pro IS the answer I'm looking for...? I'll have to 
read 
> > up on that DTXtreme II module in this sample importing 
capability. 
> > Maybe I should get rid of my DTXpress I & III modules...?
> 
> If importing samples is your goal, the Xpress modules won't get 
you 
> there. And modules are typically lacking in the velocity stages 
that 
> software and samples can often provide. The TD-10, if I recall, 
falls 
> in the mid-300s; the ddrum4's boast of 1,000 or so due to its 
analog 
> triggering should be taken with a grain of salt, though it easily 
> exceeds those of the digital modules (Yamaha, Roland, Alesis, 
etc.). 
> The Alesis is limited in a few areas, but see if its sampling 
> capability is satisfactory to you.  All of the current sampling 
> modules (ddrum, Yamaha, and Alesis) are hampered to some extent by 
> their memories, mainly because they are simply not up to date in 
> their pure computing ability. But OGD et al. can go into greater 
> detail about that end of things.
> 
> Ed


Thanks Ed,

I suppose in time, Yamaha & other manufactures of drum modules WILL 
include a much higher bit/sample rate along with volocities that are 
in step with software counterparts.
Ok, while we're 'dreaming' here...wouldn't it be wild if we can 
load 'any' drum software sampler CD into the module? Either directly 
from our computers HDD, CD ROM drive via through a simple 'standard' 
cable like USB, midi, To Host, Firewire, etc..without having to use 
something like Alesis' PCMCIA which I'll have to buy something 
special for it.
I'm not opposed to buying a more advanced ($$$) module like the 
DTXtreme or other in the future if it fills my needs which are 
basically for my home studio needs. 
Yeah, to be able to import new samples is one of my main objectives, 
after all we all want 'open ended' capability for now and the future.
I know for studio needs, software based drum samples are used most 
among DAW users - at least over at the Cubase.net forum - but I just 
hate programing. It's much better to just 'play' than to have to 
step write sterile beats.
As said before, trying to use a software sampler in conjunction with 
an edrum set, then having to buy an interface like battery as well 
is just too complicated. People have tried to explain briefly, but I 
didn't get it!:(

Steve