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[DSI Synths] Re: DSI Evolution?

2010-10-18 by lesser_inc

--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, James Elliott <johans121@...> wrote:
>
> Wow J. I guess you have my work flow all sorts of figured out don'cha? Maybe I 
> really don't want to use my computer in my setup. Maybe I would like to use my 
> evolver, modular, 777, and a midi/cv converter and that's it. Maybe with that 
> setup in mind I would like to use the evolver as the clock source. Maybe, just 
> maybe just maybe, I'm using the evolver's sequencer to control my modular 
> because the evolver has those super duper handy dandy modifiable clock dividers 
> built right into it, and I can have it send out a standard clock and I can use 
> its sequencer to pump out funky clock division trickery which was part of the 
> sound I was going for at the time. Maybe you're just not familiar with what 
> would make someone actually want to use the evolver's sequencer to sequence 
> other instruments. I guess I could buy a P3 or a Cirkilon (sp?), but I really 
> don't want to spend $1000+ on another piece of kit, especially during these 
> times of economic uncertainty. 
> 

JE-

I clearly don't have anything figured out.

Starting off constructively, you could look into buying a Novation Bass Station. They are cheap and have a cv-midi input. This way you could send a sequence on channel 2 of the evolver to the modular with the important parts of the sequence way up around 100-127 and use 1 or 0 (can't remember what the lowest value is) as a rest. Tuning the modular quite low, the lowest notes from the evolver should not really noticeable - or you could high pass filter that... anyway... Then you could take the cv generated back into the cv-midi input and use the clock from there. Granted, you don't have that particular piece of gear, but its doable and cheap.

Secondly, I commend the simplicity of your setup and I believe it does speak to my point that as a backlash to the "everything in the box" mentality of the last decade, people are looking to get MUCH MORE out of LESS. Composing stuff for 3 actual instruments and having it be suitably complex is a lot more rewarding than just dialing up 3 virtual instruments... and it looks a heck of a lot cooler live. We both know your setup would be cheaper and easier to accomplish if you just used a computer. Please don't take ANY of this as a jab because I feel that we are in agreement on this point.

I do read this group, and specifically this thread. Usually I don't have much to say, but I read A LOT of folks weighing in on this topic - and had just returned from sunday morning all-you-can-drink mimosas... which may have affected my tone - apologies all around. My point is/was/is that the Evolver is not a GenoQs box. It was created as a synth that has insane amounts of modulation possibilities built in. In the past, I wished to be able to output one source or another... heck even to use the knobs easily as general midi... or to be able to address the modulation sources with something other than SysEx  (read PC-1600)... its a pain in the ass.... but the Evolver was meant to be a world unto itself... and there generally is a way around the limitations.

I stand by my wish to have DSI spend time on new products rather than add new features to an old product. Bug fixes, YES. If there are bugs it would be nice to see them fixed, but other than that, I think things are pretty ok.

j

> And as for the tired and recycled quote goes, "In this day and age its what 
> limits us, not enables us, that creates good music". Sorry dude, but that 
> applies only within a given context. A guitar is what enables a guitarist to 
> play guitar music. A percussion kit is what enables a percussionist to play.... 
> percussion based music. Please. 
> 
> 
> One last thing J, don't presume that I have hit some kind of creative roadblock 
> because of these issues. As I've mentioned earlier in these series of threads is 
> that ALL OF THESE ISSUES WERE DOCUMENTED AND PRESENTED TO DSI A LONG TIME AGO 
> >>>> YEARS AGO!!!! If you read the whole thread you will see where the context 
> for this discussion even came from.
>

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