Dave Smith Instruments SYNTHESIZERS

Well, although I haven't tried it yet myself, some synths (at least my 
JP8080) have the ability to remap out the midi data output from the midi out 
as a result of moving their controls. I think I could set up my jp8080 such 
that all the functions would correstpond to the evolver and control it. Sure 
it wouldn't be as comprehensive as all the evolver functions, but it would 
cover the basics pretty well. I wonder if a knob laden synth like the virus 
can do that?  If it can't I am sure you can place a computer with some 
software inbetween any synth that sends out controller data from its surface 
and the evolver to give it more meaningful control than say 64 knobs on a 
box. Just an idea.

Ravi



>From: "ski_ex5tech" <ex5tech@...>
>Reply-To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
>To: DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Evolver] Re: What's your weekend looking like?
>Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 13:49:40 -0000
>
>Sayer, I understand, because I went through a period where I did the
>same thing quite frequently, and accidentally adjust the wrong
>parameter and ruin an editing session.  I almost never have that
>problem anymore, and I attribute that to two things:
>
>1. The position and placement of my Evo was previously such that my
>hand would block my vision from a big part of the front panel
>whenever I was grabbing a knob to edit.  In particular, the vertical
>strip of "active row indicator" LED's on the left was blocked.  I
>repositioned the unit to avoid that problem, and it helped a LOT.
>
>2. Experience (read that "spending too much time") with programming
>the Evo yields much better familiarity with the front panel layout.
>It also made me develop a little more mental discipline while
>editing;  I now always give a quick visual check of the "row
>indicator" LED's prior to tweaking a knob, yet I don't feel like I'm
>being slowed down.
>
>All that said... YES, a big knob/slider/switch studded panel would be
>wonderful.  Of course, as recently discussed in another thread, that
>would result in a significantly higher price, and a much larger box.
>You get some, you give some!  ;)
>
>I wouldn't mind a dedicated software editor myself.  Maybe I'll
>program one someday, because I won't buy an emagic product due to
>problems I had with them even *before* they decided to cease
>development and support of their Windows products.  I've been meaning
>to try the MIDI Quest editor/librarian, though.  Maybe it would be a
>good alternative.
>
>Another possibility would be to get a hardware control surface (like
>a Phat Boy on steroids), but I don't think anything out there has
>enough knobs to cover most of Evo's functions.  Actually, I don't
>think TWO of anything out there has enough knobs!  ;)  Let's see...
>you have 8 editing rows times 8 knobs times 2 for the shift function,
>which gives you *128* parms.  Then you have the top row, which adds
>another *16* parms.  Then you have to add the sequencer mode, which
>is an 8x8 matrix for another *64* parms.  So that's 128 + 16 + 64 =
>208 knobs that you would need on a hardware controller in order to
>have a knob for every function.  Did I miss any?  Oh, yeah, and you'd
>need two buttons for the sequencer start/stop and reset functions.  ;)
>
>Tell me THAT wouldn't be cool... a polyphonic "Evolver KB5" keyboard
>synth with 208 knobs on the front panel!  Ha!  Truth be told, I'd
>actually *like* to have *some* of the knobs serve muliple (but
>related) functions - such as having just 16 knobs for the sequencer,
>with a button or switch to select between editing tracks 1 through 4.
>
>
>Ski
>www.ex5tech.com
>EX5Tech Evolver forum:
>http://www.ex5tech.com/ex5ubb_cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum&f=23
>
>
>
>--- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "Sayer" <Sayer@S...> wrote:
> > I'm in the same boat as well.... Every time I plan to work with the
> > Evo I end up on the Virus b, XTk, NL2... or another knob laden
> > synth.
> >
> > Every time I work with the Evo at some point I grab and twist a
>knob
> > that is set to the wrong row. So then it becomes.... "ok, up the
> > filter cutoff, lets see, which row is selected, oops wrong one, ok
> > row selected, now find the knob.... ok cutoff is up." It really
> > hinders my creative flow.
> >
> > I don't own SoundDiver, hopefully someone creates a dedicated
> > editor.
> >
> > But..... If I had a new file to send to the Evo this weekend maybe
>I
> > would spend some time with it!!!!
> >
> > Sayer
>
>
>
> > --- In DSI_Evolver@yahoogroups.com, "ski_ex5tech" <ex5tech@e...>
> > wrote:
> > > Wow, Craig, I'm hugely disappointed to hear that.  You did some
> > VERY
> > > nice work with your adaptation of "Sweet Child O' Mine" on the
> > Evo.
> > > That's one of my favorite sequences.
> > >
> > > I'm not a SoundDiver (or anything emagic) fan at all - long
>story -
> >
> > > but have you tried the SoundDiver editor for the Evo?  Maybe that
> > > would let you "see" the patches the way you like.
> >
>
>

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