Hey all, I got evolver no. 63 about a week ago, and have only just surfaced! I have a pulse and have had a microwave XT and the evolver fills the gap that I was attempting to fill with those units. I found the XT quite dissapointing, I think becuase of its totally digital nature (I hated the filters): which brings me to the point: There is an A-D D-A stage almost at the end of the evolver signal chain , after the filter and after the VCA. This, to my ears, is discernable, sounding the same way that a sampled sound differs from the sound itself (some how cleaner?). This might be an insuperable problem for pure 'punch', asides from the speed of the envelopes. I guess the test would also need to be mono with no efx to avoid any phasing problems. The evolver is, of course, a much more useful and interesting instrument: I'm amazed at the breadth of the sounds, and the way it sits in a mix, sweet. The amount of thought and care that has gone into this keeps amazing me, from the design to the sound to the presets. Awesome. a. Ravi Ivan Sharma wrote: > I just wanted to make clear that I understand that I am really > splitting hairs here with this topic. I don't hear "non-punchy" when > I play the Evolver at all. I just know the bulldog nature of the > Pulse too. > > > --- In DSI_Evolver@y..., "Ravi Ivan Sharma" <noision1@h...> wrote: > >>--- In DSI_Evolver@y..., "mr julian" <jujulilianan@h...> wrote: >> >>>>the hope being that we can isolate >>>>the magic dust and have that added to the Evolver . . . >>>> >>> >>>hmm maybe, though I like the idea of the evolver being something >> >>thats very >> >>>different from what already exists. >>> >>> >>>>julian >>> >>I think there is no worry that the Evolver is different! >> >>I believe the punchy nature of the Pulse is one of its more >>noteworthy features, and as features go, punchiness is pretty >>important for a monosynth. I have and will start hearing things >>like "the Evolver is great but isn't as punchy as the Pulse can > > be." > >>Perhaps it is not fair to compare two very different synths, but > > on > >>a few basic levels, the pulse and the evolver are alike too. >> >>I guess we are into talking about the essenses of synths and what >>makes them unique and noteworthy, which makes the topic hard. I >>have a minimoog as well, and of course it does not sound the same > > as > >>the Pulse, yet it is also "punchy." I want that much punch in the >>Evolver too. The question, is how to get it? I like to tell people >>who ask about the minimoog, that you have to work hard to make it >>sound bad and there are other synths that you have to work hard to >>make them sound good--that is what makes a synth great. Well I > > could > >>say about the Pulse that you have to work hard to make it less >>punchy! The Evolver? It isn't hard to make it sound good, that's > > for > >>sure. In fact, I would say it is hard to not make it sound spacey >>and complex--it exudes quality and depth. >> >>I think Punchiness is something good that can be in many synths >>without them sounding or being similar to each other. >> >>So I want to address the comparison, because I think we all can be >>sure that this will be addressed in the probably all reviews we >>read, and the question is, what will be the fair verdict?. >> >>On the other hand, I would like anyone's opinions on how the > > Evolver > >>compares to other noteable monosynths or synths in the regard >>to "punchiness." Clearly the Evolver is no slouch! And I my >>instincts tell me it is a "Great" synth. And neither my Moog, > > Pulse > >>or Evolver are substitues for each other. >> >>I must say, however, that I was hopeful that the Evolver would > > just > >>trounce the Pulse on all levels (except of course the > > arpeggiator), > >>not because I have any special animosity towards the Pulse or >>special love of the Evolver, but just because it is so exciting to >>behold something that just rewrites the rules. Like Muhummed Ali >>breaking all the records, etc, etc. >> >>Anyway, perhaps the DCO nature of the pulse makes it a bit harder. >>The Evolver with its Oscillators on separate channels, and the > > fact > >>that there is a filter per analog oscillator rather than one > > filter > >>with more signal going into it, as in the Pulse, makes some >>difference. Or the way that the two channels interact with each >>other, whether fed out stereo, less stereo, or mono. >> >>The statement about the delay between the attack and decay > > portions > >>of the VCA envelope are interesting, but such seems to be erased > > in > >>any event if the sustain is up full. >> >>Anyway, here's to hopefully the beginning of a fun and > > illuminating > >>thread. >> >>Ravi > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DSI_Evolver-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > . > -- ------------------------------------- http://www.badsneakers.com Understanding FM synthesis: Think of it as one person singing and another person grabbing the throat of the first and shaking him in a rhythmic manner; the singer being the Carrier and the throttler being the Modulator.
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Re: [Evolver] Punchiness: Evolver v. Pulse
2002-11-11 by Alex
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