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static upon touch

2016-09-26 by Brendan Cooney

Another question:

This new CZ1 has a problem that seems to have gotten worse in the 5 days I've owned it. When I touch the instrument anywhere it produces a loud crackly, distorted sound. At first I thought it was just coming from the pitch bend and that a simple cleaning would fix it. However I now realize that it happens when i touch any surface on the instrument, including the body itself. It comes and goes. I tried changing power cables but this does not change things. I'm not much of a repair guy so I don't even know where to go from here, but my novice guess is that it's a grounding issue with the power supply. If it seems like a serious problem I may try to get my money back from the seller. Anyone have any thoughts?

Brendan





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Re: static upon touch

2016-09-27 by smw-mail@...

If you are talking about touching any where on the metal case, I am wondering if it also happens when you touch the plastic. IIRC, the ends on either side of the keyboard/PB/Mod Wheels is plastic.


On the one hand, if there is a grounding issue, I hope you are wearing insulated shoes when you touch the CZ. On the other hand, back in the late 80s, I damaged a CZ-5000's electronics by zapping the CZ with a "small" discharge of electricity.


Damned if you do, damned if you don't. I recommend getting it looked at by an expert before risking further damage. JMO.


Steve



Re: static upon touch

2016-09-27 by smw-mail@...

PS: As long as you didn't cause the problem by zapping the CZ with static or any other means, it might be a good idea to try to get your money back. BTW, when I zapped my CZ-5000, I had it repaired by Triple S Electronics (in NJ, I believe) who (as I understand it) did factory repairs for Casio USA back "in the day" [1980s]. Not sure if they are still around, but they fixed mine back to factory specs.

Re: [CZsynth] static upon touch

2016-09-27 by Daniel Forró

It can be a small problem which can be easily found and repaired - for example some dirty or oxidized contact somewhere in audio chain, dirty fader rail, dirty contact in some switch, crack on PCB...

Check also if there's not problem with solder of output jacks - there can be a crack on PCB or cold solder. I would check also the output relay and clean its contacts.

You will not do wrong to check PSU for cold solder, bad contact or cracks on PCB...

If you don't know much about repairs, find somebody who knows more about. Service manual can be found on the internet.

If you want to open the instrument and do cleaning and checking, detach the power cable from the instrument.

Daniel Forro


On Sep 27, 2016, at 12:31 AM, Brendan Cooney cooneypiano@... [CZsynth] wrote:


This new CZ1 has a problem that seems to have gotten worse in the 5 days I've owned it. When I touch the instrument anywhere it produces a loud crackly, distorted sound. At first I thought it was just coming from the pitch bend and that a simple cleaning would fix it. However I now realize that it happens when i touch any surface on the instrument, including the body itself. It comes and goes. I tried changing power cables but this does not change things. I'm not much of a repair guy so I don't even know where to go from here, but my novice guess is that it's a grounding issue with the power supply. If it seems like a serious problem I may try to get my money back from the seller. Anyone have any thoughts?

Re: [CZsynth] static upon touch

2016-09-27 by Brendan Cooney

Thanks for the replies! At first I thought it was just dirty contacts in the pitch bend, but then I realized it was happening everywhere on the board, even just touching plastic areas. I will try to get a refund from the purchase and/or consider getting some work done by a pro. This is email group has been quite helpful for CZ stuff. I'm very glad it exists. 

    On Tuesday, September 27, 2016 10:09 AM, "Daniel Forró danforcz@... [CZsynth]" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

     It can be a small problem which can be easily found and repaired - for example some dirty or oxidized contact somewhere in audio chain, dirty fader rail, dirty contact in some switch, crack on PCB...
Check also if there's not problem with solder of output jacks - there can be a crack on PCB or cold solder. I would check also the output relay and clean its contacts.
You will not do wrong to check PSU for cold solder, bad contact or cracks on PCB...
If you don't know much about repairs, find somebody who knows more about. Service manual can be found on the internet.
If you want to open the instrument and do cleaning and checking, detach the power cable from the instrument.
Daniel Forro

On Sep 27, 2016, at 12:31 AM, Brendan Cooney cooneypiano@... [CZsynth] wrote:


This new CZ1 has a problem that seems to have gotten worse in the 5 days I've owned it. When I touch the instrument anywhere it produces a loud crackly, distorted sound. At first I thought it was just coming from the pitch bend and that a simple cleaning would fix it. However I now realize that it happens when i touch any surface on the instrument, including the body itself. It comes and goes. I tried changing power cables but this does not change things. I'm not much of a repair guy so I don't even know where to go from here, but my novice guess is that it's a grounding issue with the power supply. If it seems like a serious problem I may try to get my money back from the seller. Anyone have any thoughts?

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