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casio fz10m horner disk drive trouble

2010-08-08 by charles c

hi i've had a casio fz10m for a half a year now
its disk drive was not as responsive as other drives .
i took the drive out of the machine for close inspection 
but when i reinstalled the drive , it failed to read any of the original disks  i had for it .

now don't get me wrong , i had this thing apart a few times and this never hapened  , i clean and maintanence all my equipment, 
so its not a plunder or defective due to my carelessness.

what do we think is wrong ???

anybody had this happen to them ?

anybody know about ther disk drives in the casio fz10m

because now , 

the disk drive acts normal ,
 reads any disk made in itself ,
 just won't read other disks prior to the cleaning

what did i do?
, misallign the heads ,
,unbalenece write stepping?

charles

Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m horner disk drive trouble

2010-08-08 by Summa

When it comes to floppy disk drives, you have to be carefull to make 
sure they don't get misaligned. Some years ago I had a hard time 
manually realigning a disk drive I took apart, you usualy need 
special equipment for that task...

This (commercial) page might be helpfull to you, at least when it 
comes to telling you the basics about floppy disk drive alignment...

http://www.accurite.com/FloppyPrimer.html


On 8 Aug 2010 at 1:04, charles c wrote:

> hi i've had a casio fz10m for a half a year now
> its disk drive was not as responsive as other drives .
> i took the drive out of the machine for close inspection 
> but when i reinstalled the drive , it failed to read any of the
> original disks  i had for it .
> 
> now don't get me wrong , i had this thing apart a few times and this
> never hapened  , i clean and maintanence all my equipment, 
> so its not a plunder or defective due to my carelessness.
> 
> what do we think is wrong ???
> 
> anybody had this happen to them ?
> 
> anybody know about ther disk drives in the casio fz10m
> 
> because now , 
> 
> the disk drive acts normal ,
>  reads any disk made in itself ,
>  just won't read other disks prior to the cleaning
> 
> what did i do?
> , misallign the heads ,
> ,unbalenece write stepping?
> 
> charles 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m horner disk drive trouble

2010-08-08 by jammie

sound like you miss alligned the heads to before so it wont read disks produced on the michine prior to it being surviced

and to get them to align properly you need a special machine 

but as seeing it still works you can send me your disks and i can save them to pc as fzdumps and email you the files and send back the disks so you can resave them
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: charles c 
  To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 2:04 AM
  Subject: [CZsynth] casio fz10m horner disk drive trouble


    
  hi i've had a casio fz10m for a half a year now
  its disk drive was not as responsive as other drives .
  i took the drive out of the machine for close inspection 
  but when i reinstalled the drive , it failed to read any of the original disks i had for it .

  now don't get me wrong , i had this thing apart a few times and this never hapened , i clean and maintanence all my equipment, 
  so its not a plunder or defective due to my carelessness.

  what do we think is wrong ???

  anybody had this happen to them ?

  anybody know about ther disk drives in the casio fz10m

  because now , 

  the disk drive acts normal ,
  reads any disk made in itself ,
  just won't read other disks prior to the cleaning

  what did i do?
  , misallign the heads ,
  ,unbalenece write stepping?

  charles 



  


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Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m horner disk drive trouble

2010-08-08 by charlie midi gfa

ahh yes !
great ideal , thanks for offereing to do this
i will do this as  a last resort jammie
pm sent !

charles


----- Original Message -----
From: "jammie" <
>
To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 2:05 AM
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m horner disk drive trouble


> sound like you miss alligned the heads to before so it wont read disks
produced on the michine prior to it being surviced
>
> and to get them to align properly you need a special machine
>
> but as seeing it still works you can send me your disks and i can save
them to pc as fzdumps and email you the files and send back the disks so you
can resave them
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: charles c
>   To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 2:04 AM
>   Subject: [CZsynth] casio fz10m horner disk drive trouble
>
>
>
>   hi i've had a casio fz10m for a half a year now
>   its disk drive was not as responsive as other drives .
>   i took the drive out of the machine for close inspection
>   but when i reinstalled the drive , it failed to read any of the original
disks i had for it .
>
>   now don't get me wrong , i had this thing apart a few times and this
never hapened , i clean and maintanence all my equipment,
>   so its not a plunder or defective due to my carelessness.
>
>   what do we think is wrong ???
>
>   anybody had this happen to them ?
>
>   anybody know about ther disk drives in the casio fz10m
>
>   because now ,
>
>   the disk drive acts normal ,
>   reads any disk made in itself ,
>   just won't read other disks prior to the cleaning
>
>   what did i do?
>   , misallign the heads ,
>   ,unbalenece write stepping?
>
>   charles
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>   No virus found in this incoming message.
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>   Version: 8.5.441 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3056 - Release Date: 08/07/10
06:28:00
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Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m horner disk drive trouble

2010-08-08 by charlie midi gfa

yes summa your thread cleared up alot of doubts for me
especially the link to the site

thanks 

i must have misalligned the heads

commical thing is
 the drive doesn't error any more, just won't read 
the original disks.

??????????????????????????
charles




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From: "Summa" <flotorian@...>
To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m horner disk drive trouble


> When it comes to floppy disk drives, you have to be carefull to make 
> sure they don't get misaligned. Some years ago I had a hard time 
> manually realigning a disk drive I took apart, you usualy need 
> special equipment for that task...
> 
> This (commercial) page might be helpfull to you, at least when it 
> comes to telling you the basics about floppy disk drive alignment...
> 
> http://www.accurite.com/FloppyPrimer.html
> 
> 
> On 8 Aug 2010 at 1:04, charles c wrote:
> 
> > hi i've had a casio fz10m for a half a year now
> > its disk drive was not as responsive as other drives .
> > i took the drive out of the machine for close inspection 
> > but when i reinstalled the drive , it failed to read any of the
> > original disks  i had for it .
> > 
> > now don't get me wrong , i had this thing apart a few times and this
> > never hapened  , i clean and maintanence all my equipment, 
> > so its not a plunder or defective due to my carelessness.
> > 
> > what do we think is wrong ???
> > 
> > anybody had this happen to them ?
> > 
> > anybody know about ther disk drives in the casio fz10m
> > 
> > because now , 
> > 
> > the disk drive acts normal ,
> >  reads any disk made in itself ,
> >  just won't read other disks prior to the cleaning
> > 
> > what did i do?
> > , misallign the heads ,
> > ,unbalenece write stepping?
> > 
> > charles 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------------
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> CZ/VZ mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CZsynth
> FMHeaven mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fmheaven/
> FS1R mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fs1r/ 
> Vokator mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vokator
> FM-Synthesis mailing list         : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fm-
> synthesis/
> 
> http://www.summasounds.de/
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
> 
>

Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m horner disk drive trouble

2010-08-08 by jammie

you might of actualy realigned the heads as if they were giving errors before you serviced it that

might be the reason why the disks dont read know becuase they are full of errors
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: charlie midi gfa 
  To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, August 08, 2010 12:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m horner disk drive trouble


    
  yes summa your thread cleared up alot of doubts for me
  especially the link to the site

  thanks 

  i must have misalligned the heads

  commical thing is
  the drive doesn't error any more, just won't read 
  the original disks.

  ??????????????????????????
  charles

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Summa" <flotorian@...>
  To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
  Sent: Saturday, August 07, 2010 9:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m horner disk drive trouble

  > When it comes to floppy disk drives, you have to be carefull to make 
  > sure they don't get misaligned. Some years ago I had a hard time 
  > manually realigning a disk drive I took apart, you usualy need 
  > special equipment for that task...
  > 
  > This (commercial) page might be helpfull to you, at least when it 
  > comes to telling you the basics about floppy disk drive alignment...
  > 
  > http://www.accurite.com/FloppyPrimer.html
  > 
  > 
  > On 8 Aug 2010 at 1:04, charles c wrote:
  > 
  > > hi i've had a casio fz10m for a half a year now
  > > its disk drive was not as responsive as other drives .
  > > i took the drive out of the machine for close inspection 
  > > but when i reinstalled the drive , it failed to read any of the
  > > original disks i had for it .
  > > 
  > > now don't get me wrong , i had this thing apart a few times and this
  > > never hapened , i clean and maintanence all my equipment, 
  > > so its not a plunder or defective due to my carelessness.
  > > 
  > > what do we think is wrong ???
  > > 
  > > anybody had this happen to them ?
  > > 
  > > anybody know about ther disk drives in the casio fz10m
  > > 
  > > because now , 
  > > 
  > > the disk drive acts normal ,
  > > reads any disk made in itself ,
  > > just won't read other disks prior to the cleaning
  > > 
  > > what did i do?
  > > , misallign the heads ,
  > > ,unbalenece write stepping?
  > > 
  > > charles 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > ------------------------------------
  > > 
  > > Yahoo! Groups Links
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > > 
  > 
  > 
  > -- 
  > 
  > CZ/VZ mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CZsynth
  > FMHeaven mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fmheaven/
  > FS1R mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fs1r/ 
  > Vokator mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vokator
  > FM-Synthesis mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fm-
  > synthesis/
  > 
  > http://www.summasounds.de/
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > ------------------------------------
  > 
  > Yahoo! Groups Links
  > 
  > 
  > 
  > 


  


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Re: [CZsynth] casio fz10m horner disk drive trouble

2010-08-08 by charlie midi gfa

i thought of this too (fixing it,bypassing other previous old write errors)
, but i am working inside such a tight confinement

the fz  would give errors alot ....
like if i had made more than four or five just simple
waveforms..not samples.... and tryied saving to disk ,it would just not
write to disk correctily

and he waveforms are small in memory right?
compared to sample data

or

then its kinda malform its running state
 not allow voices to be loaded from other disks ,when trying to load
mulitple voice from multiple voice disks
 or
 if it did  succesfully load after reporting a couple bad disk reads,
 then saving  all the data unto another disk was fouled too...
seemed to remain in whatever state the previous disk had rendered it into

so onto my main point
now everything ok , but the original casio disks don't read ,
i've went beyond a restore and  fix point  to
simplily fix new unknown state


i need to take a small step backwards to
 fix  and reset factory like state

that site was a land mark
 it explained the problems disk drive posses when faulty and even shone
light on how the data is stored on disk

thanks
charles

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