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2010-04-08 by Baptiste
Hi, Does anyone have a CZ 101/ 1000 service manual which includes all the calibrations, and how to repair the CZ, not just the schematics? Because I have a faulty CZ 101. The problem is when I push down more than one key, it starts to warble and sounds very distorted. I have been advised that it may be one of the op amps, but I would rather check the calibrations before replacing it. Thanks!
2010-06-08 by udon.juan
Hello Baptiste, Did you ever come across anything? I have an old CZ-101 with similar problems, and I am looking to rehabilitate it. Best, Udon --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Baptiste" <oscillate_wildly1@...> wrote:
> > Hi, > > Does anyone have a CZ 101/ 1000 service manual which includes all the calibrations, and how to repair the CZ, not just the schematics? > > Because I have a faulty CZ 101. The problem is when I push down more than one key, it starts to warble and sounds very distorted. I have been advised that it may be one of the op amps, but I would rather check the calibrations before replacing it. > > Thanks! >
2010-07-04 by kasiofz
Hi I'm searching too for the full service manual. Also I'm having the same problem here. i think that it has to do with the DAC offset voltage value. I measure it at about 2.5v DC. I also have checked a CZ-5000 service manual which states that the DAC offset voltage value must be around 300mV. The problem is that I can not figure out why I'm read this hi voltage value (2.5v). The VR2 trimmer doesn't do anything. Please share any additional thoughts. Regards Bill --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "udon.juan" <udon.juan@...> wrote:
> > Hello Baptiste, > > Did you ever come across anything? I have an old CZ-101 with similar problems, and I am looking to rehabilitate it. > > Best, Udon > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Baptiste" <oscillate_wildly1@> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > Does anyone have a CZ 101/ 1000 service manual which includes all the calibrations, and how to repair the CZ, not just the schematics? > > > > Because I have a faulty CZ 101. The problem is when I push down more than one key, it starts to warble and sounds very distorted. I have been advised that it may be one of the op amps, but I would rather check the calibrations before replacing it. > > > > Thanks! > > >
2010-07-04 by kasiofz
Hi, I want to add that if someone programs the internal sounds amp env maximum level at 55 value the distortion will stop when multiple keys are pressed down. Although the sound volume level will fall quite a lot. Regards --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "kasiofz" <kasiofz@...> wrote:
> > Hi > I'm searching too for the full service manual. Also I'm having the same problem here. i think that it has to do with the DAC offset voltage value. I measure it at about 2.5v DC. I also have checked a CZ-5000 service manual which states that the DAC offset voltage value must be around 300mV. The problem is that I can not figure out why I'm read this hi voltage value (2.5v). The VR2 trimmer doesn't do anything. Please share any additional thoughts. > Regards > Bill > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "udon.juan" <udon.juan@> wrote: > > > > Hello Baptiste, > > > > Did you ever come across anything? I have an old CZ-101 with similar problems, and I am looking to rehabilitate it. > > > > Best, Udon > > > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Baptiste" <oscillate_wildly1@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Does anyone have a CZ 101/ 1000 service manual which includes all the calibrations, and how to repair the CZ, not just the schematics? > > > > > > Because I have a faulty CZ 101. The problem is when I push down more than one key, it starts to warble and sounds very distorted. I have been advised that it may be one of the op amps, but I would rather check the calibrations before replacing it. > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > >
2010-07-04 by Summa
Checked the relay the is grounding the output while the synth is turned off? On 4 Jul 2010 at 17:36, kasiofz wrote: > > Hi, > I want to add that if someone programs the internal sounds amp env > maximum level at 55 value the distortion will stop when multiple > keys are pressed down. Although the sound volume level will fall > quite a lot. > Regards > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "kasiofz" <kasiofz@...> wrote: > > > > Hi > > I'm searching too for the full service manual. Also I'm having the > same problem here. i think that it has to do with the DAC offset > voltage value. I measure it at about 2.5v DC. I also have checked a > CZ-5000 service manual which states that the DAC offset voltage > value must be around 300mV. The problem is that I can not figure out > why I'm read this hi voltage value (2.5v). The VR2 trimmer doesn't > do anything. Please share any additional thoughts. > > Regards > > Bill > > > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "udon.juan" <udon.juan@> wrote: > > > > > > Hello Baptiste, > > > > > > Did you ever come across anything? I have an old CZ-101 with > similar problems, and I am looking to rehabilitate it. > > > > > > Best, Udon > > > > > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Baptiste" <oscillate_wildly1@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Does anyone have a CZ 101/ 1000 service manual which includes > all the calibrations, and how to repair the CZ, not just the > schematics? > > > > > > > > Because I have a faulty CZ 101. The problem is when I push > down more than one key, it starts to warble and sounds very > distorted. I have been advised that it may be one of the op amps, > but I would rather check the calibrations before replacing it. > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > -- CZ/VZ mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CZsynth FMHeaven mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fmheaven/ FS1R mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fs1r/ Vokator mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vokator FM-Synthesis mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fm- synthesis/ http://www.summasounds.de/
2010-07-04 by kasiofz
I don't understand what "relay the" you are pointing out. Thanks --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Summa" <flotorian@...> wrote:
> > Checked the relay the is grounding the output while the synth is > turned off? > > On 4 Jul 2010 at 17:36, kasiofz wrote: > > > > > Hi, > > I want to add that if someone programs the internal sounds amp env > > maximum level at 55 value the distortion will stop when multiple > > keys are pressed down. Although the sound volume level will fall > > quite a lot. > > Regards > > > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "kasiofz" <kasiofz@> wrote: > > > > > > Hi > > > I'm searching too for the full service manual. Also I'm having the > > same problem here. i think that it has to do with the DAC offset > > voltage value. I measure it at about 2.5v DC. I also have checked a > > CZ-5000 service manual which states that the DAC offset voltage > > value must be around 300mV. The problem is that I can not figure out > > why I'm read this hi voltage value (2.5v). The VR2 trimmer doesn't > > do anything. Please share any additional thoughts. > > > Regards > > > Bill > > > > > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "udon.juan" <udon.juan@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hello Baptiste, > > > > > > > > Did you ever come across anything? I have an old CZ-101 with > > similar problems, and I am looking to rehabilitate it. > > > > > > > > Best, Udon > > > > > > > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Baptiste" <oscillate_wildly1@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have a CZ 101/ 1000 service manual which includes > > all the calibrations, and how to repair the CZ, not just the > > schematics? > > > > > > > > > > Because I have a faulty CZ 101. The problem is when I push > > down more than one key, it starts to warble and sounds very > > distorted. I have been advised that it may be one of the op amps, > > but I would rather check the calibrations before replacing it. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > CZ/VZ mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CZsynth > FMHeaven mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fmheaven/ > FS1R mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fs1r/ > Vokator mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vokator > FM-Synthesis mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fm- > synthesis/ > > http://www.summasounds.de/ >
2010-07-04 by Summa
Sorry for the typo, the unusual heat is nagging on my concentration... relay = little electric controlled magnetic switch... Looks like this... http://www.conrad.de/medias/global/ce/5000_5999/5000/5030/5039/503916_ BB_00_FB.EPS_250.jpg On 4 Jul 2010 at 18:31, kasiofz wrote: > I don't understand what "relay the" you are pointing out. > Thanks > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Summa" <flotorian@...> wrote: > > > > Checked the relay the is grounding the output while the synth is > > turned off? > > > > On 4 Jul 2010 at 17:36, kasiofz wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > I want to add that if someone programs the internal sounds amp > env > > > maximum level at 55 value the distortion will stop when > multiple > > > keys are pressed down. Although the sound volume level will > fall > > > quite a lot. > > > Regards > > > > > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "kasiofz" <kasiofz@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > I'm searching too for the full service manual. Also I'm having > the > > > same problem here. i think that it has to do with the DAC > offset > > > voltage value. I measure it at about 2.5v DC. I also have > checked a > > > CZ-5000 service manual which states that the DAC offset > voltage > > > value must be around 300mV. The problem is that I can not figure > out > > > why I'm read this hi voltage value (2.5v). The VR2 trimmer > doesn't > > > do anything. Please share any additional thoughts. > > > > Regards > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "udon.juan" <udon.juan@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hello Baptiste, > > > > > > > > > > Did you ever come across anything? I have an old CZ-101 > with > > > similar problems, and I am looking to rehabilitate it. > > > > > > > > > > Best, Udon > > > > > > > > > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Baptiste" > <oscillate_wildly1@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have a CZ 101/ 1000 service manual which > includes > > > all the calibrations, and how to repair the CZ, not just the > > > schematics? > > > > > > > > > > > > Because I have a faulty CZ 101. The problem is when I > push > > > down more than one key, it starts to warble and sounds very > > > distorted. I have been advised that it may be one of the op > amps, > > > but I would rather check the calibrations before replacing it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > CZ/VZ mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CZsynth > > FMHeaven mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fmheaven/ > > FS1R mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fs1r/ > > Vokator mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vokator > > FM-Synthesis mailing list : > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fm- > > synthesis/ > > > > http://www.summasounds.de/ > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > -- CZ/VZ mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CZsynth FMHeaven mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fmheaven/ FS1R mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fs1r/ Vokator mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vokator FM-Synthesis mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fm- synthesis/ http://www.summasounds.de/
2010-07-04 by kasiofz
So you are referring on the relay of the M4152-MA2M board. I will check right now.. Thanks a lot --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Summa" <flotorian@...> wrote:
> > Sorry for the typo, the unusual heat is nagging on my > concentration... > > relay = little electric controlled magnetic switch... > > Looks like this... > > http://www.conrad.de/medias/global/ce/5000_5999/5000/5030/5039/503916_ > BB_00_FB.EPS_250.jpg > > > On 4 Jul 2010 at 18:31, kasiofz wrote: > > > I don't understand what "relay the" you are pointing out. > > Thanks > > > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Summa" <flotorian@> wrote: > > > > > > Checked the relay the is grounding the output while the synth is > > > turned off? > > > > > > On 4 Jul 2010 at 17:36, kasiofz wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > I want to add that if someone programs the internal sounds amp > > env > > > > maximum level at 55 value the distortion will stop when > > multiple > > > > keys are pressed down. Although the sound volume level will > > fall > > > > quite a lot. > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "kasiofz" <kasiofz@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > I'm searching too for the full service manual. Also I'm having > > the > > > > same problem here. i think that it has to do with the DAC > > offset > > > > voltage value. I measure it at about 2.5v DC. I also have > > checked a > > > > CZ-5000 service manual which states that the DAC offset > > voltage > > > > value must be around 300mV. The problem is that I can not figure > > out > > > > why I'm read this hi voltage value (2.5v). The VR2 trimmer > > doesn't > > > > do anything. Please share any additional thoughts. > > > > > Regards > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "udon.juan" <udon.juan@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Baptiste, > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you ever come across anything? I have an old CZ-101 > > with > > > > similar problems, and I am looking to rehabilitate it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, Udon > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Baptiste" > > <oscillate_wildly1@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have a CZ 101/ 1000 service manual which > > includes > > > > all the calibrations, and how to repair the CZ, not just the > > > > schematics? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because I have a faulty CZ 101. The problem is when I > > push > > > > down more than one key, it starts to warble and sounds very > > > > distorted. I have been advised that it may be one of the op > > amps, > > > > but I would rather check the calibrations before replacing it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > CZ/VZ mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CZsynth > > > FMHeaven mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fmheaven/ > > > FS1R mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fs1r/ > > > Vokator mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vokator > > > FM-Synthesis mailing list : > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fm- > > > synthesis/ > > > > > > http://www.summasounds.de/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > CZ/VZ mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CZsynth > FMHeaven mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fmheaven/ > FS1R mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fs1r/ > Vokator mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vokator > FM-Synthesis mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fm- > synthesis/ > > http://www.summasounds.de/ >
2010-07-04 by kasiofz
There is a resistor (2.7kohm) between the relay normally closed terminal and the outputs ground. Although I see continuity between the relays common pin and one of the resistors terminals. I guess that its right. Any suggestions ? Thanks --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "kasiofz" <kasiofz@...> wrote:
> > So you are referring on the relay of the M4152-MA2M board. I will check right now.. > Thanks a lot > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Summa" <flotorian@> wrote: > > > > Sorry for the typo, the unusual heat is nagging on my > > concentration... > > > > relay = little electric controlled magnetic switch... > > > > Looks like this... > > > > http://www.conrad.de/medias/global/ce/5000_5999/5000/5030/5039/503916_ > > BB_00_FB.EPS_250.jpg > > > > > > On 4 Jul 2010 at 18:31, kasiofz wrote: > > > > > I don't understand what "relay the" you are pointing out. > > > Thanks > > > > > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Summa" <flotorian@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Checked the relay the is grounding the output while the synth is > > > > turned off? > > > > > > > > On 4 Jul 2010 at 17:36, kasiofz wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > I want to add that if someone programs the internal sounds amp > > > env > > > > > maximum level at 55 value the distortion will stop when > > > multiple > > > > > keys are pressed down. Although the sound volume level will > > > fall > > > > > quite a lot. > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "kasiofz" <kasiofz@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > > > > > > I'm searching too for the full service manual. Also I'm having > > > the > > > > > same problem here. i think that it has to do with the DAC > > > offset > > > > > voltage value. I measure it at about 2.5v DC. I also have > > > checked a > > > > > CZ-5000 service manual which states that the DAC offset > > > voltage > > > > > value must be around 300mV. The problem is that I can not figure > > > out > > > > > why I'm read this hi voltage value (2.5v). The VR2 trimmer > > > doesn't > > > > > do anything. Please share any additional thoughts. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "udon.juan" <udon.juan@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Baptiste, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Did you ever come across anything? I have an old CZ-101 > > > with > > > > > similar problems, and I am looking to rehabilitate it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, Udon > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "Baptiste" > > > <oscillate_wildly1@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does anyone have a CZ 101/ 1000 service manual which > > > includes > > > > > all the calibrations, and how to repair the CZ, not just the > > > > > schematics? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because I have a faulty CZ 101. The problem is when I > > > push > > > > > down more than one key, it starts to warble and sounds very > > > > > distorted. I have been advised that it may be one of the op > > > amps, > > > > > but I would rather check the calibrations before replacing it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > CZ/VZ mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CZsynth > > > > FMHeaven mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fmheaven/ > > > > FS1R mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fs1r/ > > > > Vokator mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vokator > > > > FM-Synthesis mailing list : > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fm- > > > > synthesis/ > > > > > > > > http://www.summasounds.de/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > CZ/VZ mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CZsynth > > FMHeaven mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fmheaven/ > > FS1R mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fs1r/ > > Vokator mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/vokator > > FM-Synthesis mailing list : http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fm- > > synthesis/ > > > > http://www.summasounds.de/ > > >