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Re: [CZsynth] RE: Casio CT-6000: has it phase distortion? (main ICs?)

2013-10-09 by Paul

I have 34 or so "Soundwaves" floppies that I believe came from Casio.
Paul T

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On Oct 7, 2013, at 12:29 PM, charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@...> wrote:

> hey paul thanks but those are the same disks as
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> im surprised nobody has uploadedwhat im looking for and shared these disks 
> called "fz sound disk" series
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>  as they are great voices  from a professional company (from casio 
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> From: "Paul Krull" <paul.krull@...>
> To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 12:20 AM
> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] RE: Casio CT-6000: has it phase distortion? (main 
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> Here's a link to what looks like the whole set of FZ factory disks:
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4797433/FZ10-M.zip
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> I apologize if it's actually some alien worm but I've downloaded it and 
> unzipped it and have a stack of FZ 20M formatted floppies standing by so 
> I'll be the first to go if it all goes wrong.
> Cheers,
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> From: Paul Krull <paul.krull@...>
> To: "CZsynth@yahoogroups.com" <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
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> Sent: Thursday, October 3, 2013 12:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] RE: Casio CT-6000: has it phase distortion? (main 
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> There are pages of public domain FZ sounds out there but of course I didn't 
> come across any searching just now. I think it would be great to have a file 
> section where floppy files can be uploaded and downloaded. It does a lot to 
> extend the lives of some of these synths to have ready access to to a bunch 
> of public domain sounds. I've been downloading floppy files for Kawai K5000 
> series sounds and Yamaha SY 99 sounds and it's great. I have many of the 
> Casio factory disks for the FZ samplers which I got from a member of 
> Queensryche strangely enough.
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> From: charlie midi gfa <charles.copp@...>
> To: CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2013 5:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] RE: Casio CT-6000: has it phase distortion? (main 
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> should have bought up all the tb303 i saw too at the time
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> any body think i should start a submission request thread for fz and cz
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> looking for the casio disks which came with the fz1/10
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "350ypvs@..." <350ypvs@...>
> To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2013 8:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [CZsynth] RE: Casio CT-6000: has it phase distortion? (main
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> I didn't know it had previously been up for sale. Looks like the winning
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> Still, for 20 quid a midi keyboard with velocity and after-touch is
> somewhat a bargain, even if it weights as much as the QE2!
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> Strange because the same item was flagged as sold for £19.99 the other
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>> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/casio-ct6000-Vintage-Keyboard-/231057904553?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D17233%26meid%3D1707109365446012145%26pid%3D100019%26prg%3D8045%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D9%26sd%3D251343755942%26&nma=true&si=u6%252FO5F65v26xnh6WRsLEGtf1A3g%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc
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>> ---In czsynth@yahoogroups.com, <350ypvs@...> wrote:
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>> For those in the UK interested in owning one of these Casios, I've just
>> found two that have come up on Ebay:
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>> CT6000:
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>> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/casio-ct6000-Vintage-Keyboard-/231064724023?pt=UK_MusicalInstr_Keyboard_RL&hash=item35cc87e237
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>> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Casio-CT-6500-keyboard-electric-piano-with-stand-/261296904510?pt=UK_MusicalInstr_Keyboard_RL&hash=item3cd682593e
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>> I am not linked to either of these sales. Just thought it might be of
>> interest for those in this groups interested in owning one of these retro
>> Casios :-)
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>> On 2 October 2013 03:25, Paul Krull <paul.krull@...> wrote:
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>>  I love the various early Casios and have a few myself:
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>> CT 202 C/V
>> CT 1000P Pseudo Additive
>> CZ 5000 PD
>> CZ 1 PD
>> CZ 101   PD
>> SK-2100
>> SK 5
>> VL-1
>> VZ 10M x 2
>> FZ 10M
>> FZ 20M
>> RZ-1
>> MT 35
>> MT 40
>> MT 68
>> CT 7000
>> CT 701
>> CT 403 x 2
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>> for sale locally sitting in a music store's rack where it's been for a
>> couple years priced very cheap, I suppose I should be a completest and
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>> it up but I don't really want to. What a great company with so many cool
>> instruments.
>>  Paul T
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>> *From:* "ianweb@..." <ianweb@...>
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>> *To:* CZsynth@yahoogroups.com
>> *Sent:* Monday, September 30, 2013 1:18 PM
>> *Subject:* [CZsynth] RE: Casio CT-6000: has it phase distortion? (main
>> ICs?)
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>> The 1000P came to market after the Consonent/Vowel synths. I too have a
>> huge number of Casio synths - as below:
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>> CT202 C/V
>> CT1000P Pseudo
> Additive
>> CZ3000 PD
>> Hohner HS2 (VZ1) PD/FM/RM
>> VZ8m as above
>> HT6000 SD
>> MT400V C/V + Analog Filter
>> GZ50M PCM (GM)
>> Hohner HS1 (FZ1) Sampling plus Limited step Waveform drawing
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>> ---In czsynth@yahoogroups.com, <350ypvs@...> wrote:
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>> Casio did indeed have a sine wave based sound engine as used in the
>> Casiotone 1000P, 701 and I think a few other models circa 1981 or so. I
>> have a 1000P amongst my collection, and the CT6000 sounds nothing like it!
>> The 1000P has a very warm sound with some surprisingly deep bass
>> available.
>> It is good for organ type sounds, but that's about it. Apparently, using
>> just sine waves to generate sounds/ tones, these are very hard to use to
>> make any real changes to the overall timbre of the sound.
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>> Casio quickly gave up on this idea and moved to the Consonant Vowel engine
>> as used in most of their lower end models from the early 80's until PCM
>> engines took over. As mentioned above, the CT6000 was released in late
>> 1984
>> immediately before Phase Distortion came in on the higher spec 'pro' CZ
>> models in 1985. With the pitch bend wheel, midi and bell like 'digital
>> sounds' (that FM and PD synthesis were famously good at generating) it
>> sounds and behaves much more like a CZ than a 1000P.
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>> On 30 September 2013 13:16, D T <sneakyflute@...> wrote:
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>> Didn't Casio also have some sine-wave based engine on the 1000P and 701
>> (and probably others)? Could it have that technology instead?
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