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Re: [CZsynth] Re: problems loading sounds from sysex

2008-10-21 by peter ripa

Hi Fran,
Ah, I assumed the dumps were interchangeable between all cz-series synths, 
no wonder the envelopes were a bit "all out".
If you have the cz5000 format patches somewhere Id greatly appreciate them.
thanks for your reply,
Peter


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "narfman96" <narfman96@...>
To: <CZsynth@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 9:10 PM
Subject: [CZsynth] Re: problems loading sounds from sysex


> Hi Peter,
>
> The 4d in the 7th byte tells a CZ1 to switch into "Normal Mode" to
> accept single patch data. The CZ5000 has no idea what this string
> means....
>
> The 21 (7th byte) in the second message tells a CZ1 that this is a
> CZ1 patch dump from another CZ1 or a PC. The CZ5000 has no idea what
> this string means either....
>
> The 20 in the 7th byte tells the CZ5000 this is a CZ1 patch dump.
> Great job figuring this out by inspecting the other file! I found all
> this info in the CZ1 midi spec.
>
> The envelopes will be messed up on some or even most of the patches
> for sure. The CZ1 has velocity scaling for the DCO, DCW, and DCA
> envelopes. The CZ5000 is wide open all the time. If any velocity
> scaleable pitch envelopes are used the CZ5000 will really sound out
> to lunch. I made most all of these CZ1 patches from CZ5000 patches
> and added the velocity settings. I probably have the original CZ5000
> patches stored somewhere in my libraries if you want them I could try
> and dig them up. It's been a while.
>
> Hope this helps, Fran aka Narfman
>
> --- In CZsynth@yahoogroups.com, "peter ripa" <peter.ripa@...> wrote:
>>
>> CZ1 471 Single Sysex Patches by Narf.zip  wont load into my cz5000.
>> FrankOsCZsounds.zip  these work fine
>> to try and solve the problem i looked into the sysex file. the ones
> that
>> worked were 264 bytes and the Narf-ones were 304 bytes.
>>
>> the Narf ones contain an additional 8 bytes at the start
>>  f0 44 00 00 70 70 4d 00 70
>> and then
>>  f0 44 00 00 70 70 21 60 xx
>>
>> where the Ozs ones start with the second row
>>  f0 44 00 00 70 70 20 60 xx
>>
>> only with 20 instead of 21 so when i replace 21 with 20 they will
> load into
>> the synth but i think the envelopes are a bit screwed.
>>
>> I suspect the solution is simple but i cant figure it out. If
> someone has
>> their sysex head screwed on Id be grateful for some advice.
>>
>> regards,
>> Peter
>>
>
>
>
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