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Re: General Observations

2006-05-19 by mimulon

I feed my A6 through external filters this way:

Either MIDI out to an Encore Expressionist, which converts MIDI to CV.
The CV sets the filter cut-off, and also a gate.
The modular can trigger an envelope from the gate, or I can use the
envelope follower, or a combination of both.

I actually really like it when I mix a moog low pass AND the A6
filters at the same time.

I sometimes take an individual out from the back and feed that to the
envelope follower.

I use a Modcan envelope follower, which also has a gate extractor and
an ASR envelope all in one module, which works great.

I really wish Alesis would have allowed for a CV expander tho. Oh well.


--- In Andromeda_A6-ION@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Weeks" <bob.weeks@...>
wrote:
>
> I have one of these Moog Low pass filters. I use it on my DX7/TX7/TX802
> Stack now that's Nice. I have never thought of using it on the A6,
is there
> a way to feed CV out from the env? as the Moog filter has ENV CV in and
> Filter CV in. I not a fan of the Moog Env folower sown into the
Fooger so if
> I can route env out of the A6 then I'll have a play.
> 
> Going back throught the message archive I see somone else posted
about the
> 24db filter and it being quiet, and the reply was that's what it was
> designed to do use the sine wave filter bypass to bolster up the
sound and
> "don't overdirve the res!". The other was to route Filter 2 through
Filter 1
> and set the F1 to full open with no res and no ENV2 Control. I stil
find the
> ossilators a little thin, The origional Moog ocilators have a very warm
> sound. If memory servs me well they are old High Gain BC109c or
ACxxx Sorry
> forgotten that one.
> 
> The closest I heard to a Moog D occilators was the McBeth a few
years ago
> sorry the A6 native occilators don't come close they are too
clyinical, too
> clean. Now saying that little detune dosn't go a miss and pow you have a
> first rate synth.
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andromeda_A6-ION@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Andromeda_A6-ION@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of nanobotdex
> Sent: 15 April 2006 23:20
> To: Andromeda_A6-ION@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Andromeda_A6-ION] Re: General Observations
> 
> 
> This post brings up some interesting questions.
> 
> First, have any of you guys experimented with using an external
> Moogerfooger MF-101 Low Pass Filter?  I have often thought about
> getting one of those to achieve an exact Moog filter sound.  It would
> even be cool to route the audio to the external filter, and then back
> into the Andromeda.  For that matter, you could also apply the
> Andromeda' built-in filter feedback for somewhat of a double filter
> feedback.
> 
> Do you think using the external Moog filter would accomplish the goal,
> or would the oscillators still not be 100% dead-on?  I have often
> thought about this, and I realy don't know the answer, as I have never
> had the opportunity to do a side-by-side comparison.  However, I will
> say that the oscillators on my ARP Solus do sound inherently more
> beefy that the Andromeda.  But, again, the Andromeda's polyphony more
> than makes up for this issue.
> 
> -Dex
> www.arrogants.com
> 
> 
> --- In Andromeda_A6-ION@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Weeks" <bob.weeks@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Good day all,
> >
> > My name is Bob I am a new member to A6-ION. I have had my A6 for
> > nearly a year and use if live and in the studio, in fact it gets a
> > right hammering, pressures of playing live etc... so I invested in a
> > nice flight case and that's helped keep it looking ship-shape. So I
> > have some general observations about the A6 and was wondering if
> > anyone else found the same.
> >
> > To start with the sound I want is a Rick Wakeman Moog sound, the fat
> > one of Journey to the centre to the earth! A few years ago I bought a
> > Novation Supernova II and found it a right bugger to get the sound
> > right especially if you came back to it. So many menu layers. It was
> > nearly there but I was constantly fighting with distortion and
> > although it had a 24db filter it just couldn't cut the mustard! I was
> > going to buy a Omega 8 then by chance I caught some chap playing on a
> > Yes DVD and after probing about (as he taped the Andromeda Logo out) I
> > found it was the A6 so I bought one.
> >
> > What I have found is the filters are a bit weak (well on mine they
> > are) There are some fantastic sounds but my 24db filter is very hard
> > to get a decent variation. I examined the manual until it's almost
> > worn out and tried various permeations but the second filter is not as
> > strong as the 12db.
> >
> > If I use the "Init Prog" feature and set Env2 to Little Delay and 50%
> > Positive sustain, with the res turned to self oscillate and Env2 know
> > set I should get a nice fat moog sound. Nope. It's very quiet. Is this
> > the Init Prog routing the signal away from Filter2 ? I have taken a
> > few of the inbuilt patches and changed them and found the 24db filter
> > works a treat with a nice cut-off and I would say I'm nearly (95%
> there).
> >
> > The routing through Filter 2 is much quieter then Filter 1. I even
> > found a F1 Mix knob on a menu which is not mentioned in the manual.
> > Normally it's 50% scale Setting this to 0 there is very little sound
> > setting it to fully scale routes it to F1 only.
> >
> > The only other thing I don't like about the A6 is the saw wave is
> > weedy, my 25 Year old Korg MS20 is much better. In fact I would say if
> > I could have a Poly MS20 I would be in heaven. However, the ability to
> > combine all the waves and route the sine to post filter is wonderful.
> >
> > Please don't get me wrong with all this negative feelings I love my A6
> > it's very playable and the keyboard action is as good as a DX7 which I
> > vote as the best ever. I just have a problem with the 24db filter,
> > poor Saw wave and The knobs are loose and wobble from side to side
> > Looks like they are going to fall off! Arrgh
> >
> > I do tend to go through kit but the A6 will stay for as long as I can
> > play. It's a wonderful beast.
> >
> >
> > Bob
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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