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Re: [AVR-Chat] FW: Atmel New AVR Studio 4.12

2005-10-07 by Thomas Keller

On Fri, 2005-10-07 at 10:10 +0800, Kathy Quinlan wrote:
> Thomas Keller wrote:
> > On Thu, 2005-10-06 at 11:00 +0800, Kathy Quinlan wrote:
> >>Don wrote:
> >>>Eduardo Munoz wrote:
> >>>>I tried it with At76c713DK and JtagIce MkII.  
> >>A 48Mhz AVR now that is nice (I wonder how high our clock will go, 
> >>without liquid nitrogen cooling ;)> 
> >    Actually, heat isn't the limting factor.  While higher clock
> > frequencies will,  of course, increase heat generation, the real
> > problems are elsewhere.  Issues such as leakage currents which rise
> > dramatically as device geometries scale down for high dspeed, etc.
> > [many lines of blather omoitted to save space]
> > tom
> Tom, Mate you missed my humor :(

  I kbnew you were making a funny.

> The AVR is great at what it does, but sometimes we need just a little 
> more speed.

   Yes, I agree.  And no matter how fast they get, that will always be
the case.   It is one of a great many corollaries to Finagle's Law. (for
examnple: my 100 Mhz logic analyzer design just doesn't seem to want to
fit into an AVR, dag nab it all to heck!)

> Also the liquid nitrogen bit was aimed at those who remember the 8051 
> that was run with a clock of over 100Mhz back in the mid 90's, it was 
> liquid nitrogen cooled :)

   Now that one I hadn't heard about!   But then, I have always made it
a habit to attempt to ignore anything Intel related.

Tom.

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