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> > > > trade for a
> > > > > > copy of Steinberg's Avalon sample editor and/or Digidesign's
> > Turbosynth
> > > > for Atari. Thanks
> > > > > > for any responses.
> > > > > > -Foog
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> > > > > I am after Avalon @ Digidesign sound designer too. i tried many
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> me personally i used to use  it with the s900
> turbo synth that is.
> too make samples ,,, then extract with sounddesigner and "fix/alter"thru
> turbo synth..execlusive back out to synth.
> i was impressed though last year when i got soft synth ..i had my eyes out
> for that a while!@!@
> its good , i have fun and acheive decent results.
> 
> as for midi stuff , i kinda tryed everything at once ,
> here it goes....
> 
>  i wrote a editor for the sounds in my little yamaha pss
> 
> i wrote a rx 11 system excl dumper...
> 
> then i did some algo midi song composing stuff ,
> like using mathmatic formulas to predict the outcome of musical notes
> genearted by predefined variants..) also have written midi capture routines
> to save these works as midi files...
> different stuff , some only have constructed.
> 
>  tried a sequencer (did not know enough of the protocol) took  time off
> ,learned  for while ,
> (thanks group!!!!!!)
> 
>  made graphic interface for ali nutron music lead-r sample wave genarator...
> 
> picked up pascal as programming language
> picked up asm as programming lanuage
> 
> currently playing around with  commercial standard midi file play routine..
> real professional development type of approach...misiing good timing routine
> though!!!!
> 
> now just gathering up what programs i can find to save for the atari ..still
> programming and waiting until i become a much more  effiecient  programmer..
> 
> spent 4-5 years before all that making midi music..atari d-110,tx81z,akai
> s900,prophet2000 boss drumm machine  etc etcetc....
> 
> any how if you're serious and stay at it , things come to you, things you
> even may think are impossable  at this moment  ,they will be simplified and
> at your disposal..
> 
> what i used to believe was difficult was to obtain that sound i always look
> for  in music ,
>  especially with the  type of instrumentation i owned ,
> but sure enough i worked out the hissed, static and crackles until i have
> nice smooth synth stuff..
> 
> took a little while!!!!!!!!but i got it!!
> charles
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ariaraker" <samuel.lokorn@...>
> To: <atari-midi-archives@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 2:54 PM
> Subject: [atari-midi-archives] Re: steinberg avalon and digidesign
> turbosynth
> 
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> > Oh well you'r the same person, i'm "nuts" on atari forums.
> > Yes exactly, good news then, i will receive a S950 in few days. I use an
> Emax I and a Roland S760 too.
> >
> > Sure it interests me, what did you succeed to do for your instruments ?
> > Myself i'm not a software programmer and don't know Atari platform yet,
> did'nt have a chance to have those computer when i was young.
> >
> > I'm quite  excited to build a dedicated midi station with all the great
> midi tool i discovered while reading on Atari. (IPS, Camus...)
> >
> > But really i'd like to find a midi sample dumper/editor for Emax and S950.
> You say there are synthesis capabilites, it is more exciting then. :)
> >
> > You may know which between Turbosynth or Sound designer (or another one) i
> should aim for that use  ?
> >
> >
> > I asked a copy on Atari forums too, i'll see.
> >
> >
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> > --- In atari-midi-archives@yahoogroups.com, "midi  pascal"
> <charles.copp@> wrote:
> > >
> > > oh yeah use that one , thats me on there too , use the soft synth , its
> good
> > > for developing
> > > pure waveforms , harmonic blending ,  then it even tramnsmits to
> sampler.
> > >
> > > so you got an akai right ? i believe it totally works with it.
> > > i do alot of big time tinkering  by developing my own atari midi stuff.
> > > any interest to you?
> > >
> > >
> > > join its very easy and i know the guy selling lives in germany and
> surely
> > > was looking to sell his turbo synth at this time last year.
> > >
> > > charles
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "ariaraker" <samuel.lokorn@>
> > > To: <atari-midi-archives@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2009 1:15 PM
> > > Subject: [atari-midi-archives] Re: steinberg avalon and digidesign
> > > turbosynth
> > >
> > >
> > > > Thanks for your input Charles, unluckily the bot seen i have the
> profile
> > > to be a spammer... so i can't join it for the moment.
> > > > Anyway in the same time i found a copy of sound designer in
> atari-forum
> > > but i guess it needs the dongle ? (not receives my 1040STF yet).
> > > >
> > > > --- In atari-midi-archives@yahoogroups.com, "midi  pascal"
> > > <charles.copp@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > yeah both those program are terrific , if you know who to use the
> > > archives i
> > > > > bet somebody there has
> > > > > them for sale , i own both personally , but i do not know if i can
> give
> > > them
> > > > > out .
> > > > >
> > > > > plus i do not know if i should be dropping names towards the person
> > > selling
> > > > > sound designer or turbo synth..
> > > > >
> > > > > but use teh archives and you will find  both ..or contact me if you
> have
> > > no
> > > > > success.. i still use.
> > > > > great speaking to you ,
> > > > > chow
> > > > > charles
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "ariaraker" <samuel.lokorn@>
> > > > > To: <atari-midi-archives@yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 10:09 AM
> > > > > Subject: [atari-midi-archives] Re: steinberg avalon and digidesign
> > > > > turbosynth
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > --- In atari-midi-archives@yahoogroups.com, "foog_scoob"
> > > > > <scumfuck.cockmia@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello all,
> > > > > > > Sorry for the non-informational message, but I recently bought
> an
> > > Akai
> > > > > S1000 to use with
> > > > > > > my Mega STE and it would be AMAZING if someone knows where I can
> buy
> > > or
> > > > > trade for a
> > > > > > > copy of Steinberg's Avalon sample editor and/or Digidesign's
> > > Turbosynth
> > > > > for Atari. Thanks
> > > > > > > for any responses.
> > > > > > > -Foog
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am after Avalon @ Digidesign sound designer too. i tried many
> > > websites
> > > > > without success.
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Ok, long experience here.
Do you know if i can use a cubase 3.1/dongle + midex+ + sound designer/dongle at the same time or at least without swapping dongles ?

Thanks for your help

Fun, i am a modern daw user and powerful computer softsynths and all tat stuff And my eyes are like yours when i dig in atari midi world.

Thanks for the clarification Pewe, i understand better now.
I didn't understand it don't need a dongle.

As for multitasking, since then i ask for atari gear on a music forum i use. Someone offers me a ste, stf, falcon030, mega st, cubase 3.11 and
cubase audio with interface. I expect it will be concluding.

As for Avalon (appart of old apple computer and Alchemy) is one of the only program i found that is supposed to allow communication or 12bit midi dump with emax.

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> 
> Digidesign Sounddesigner Universal translates all the 8- and 12-bit 
> sampler formats from the past incl. Emax.
> 16bit sampler formats were added w/ version 1.5 I own.
> It also does Oberheim DPX-1.
> 
> The only format it isn´t capable to handle is EMU II.
> That´s because there was a separate Soundesigner application for EII 
> existing.
> 
> The prob w/ Avalon is, you definitely need a dongle.
> 
> Today, there are several solutions to deal w/ the old sample formats, 
> but mostly regarding storage of samples, conversions and creating images 
> of floppy disks.
> It might be a solution to use a combination of such solutions on a 
> modern computer which is faster and doesn´t deal w/ midi sample dump, 
> which is too slow.
> You  need SCSI as a minimum IMO and the only ATARI machine w/ SCSI I 
> have experience with is Mega STe 4. Never had a Falcon here, so it might 
> be a alternative too.
> 
> Definitely, today I avoid using ATARI for sample editing.
> Wavelab on PC is great.
> For transfer of samples from hardwaresamplers to a computer, I´m setting 
> up a old Mac G3 now.
> Internaly, you can use IDE drives w/ larger sizes and externaly you 
> connect SCSI drives which is ideal because my hardware samplers external 
> drives are SCSI too.
> So it´s easy to disconnect the sampler-drives and simply connect these 
> to the G3 using it as a mass storage drive.
> If you have sample library CDs, do SCSI copys of these w/ the Apple 
> machine, these are 1:1.
> 
> The most promising conversion app is Chicken Sys Constructor,- it 
> converts sampler content back and forth and regardless of their age, it 
> also deals w/ EII.
> "Back ´n forth" means,- if you have some WAV or AIF samples, content 
> from software samplers p.ex., you´re able to reconvert this for you 
> hardware sampler from the past too.
> http://www.chickensys.com/products/sw_iteminfo.php?sw_name=Constructor
> 
> EMXP is also worth a try, especially for the Emax
> http://users.skynet.be/emxp/
> 
> there are also links on the site for tools for OB-DPX-1 and Omniflop, an 
> app which deals w/ almost any floppy disk formats.
> 
> This way, you´re able to convert samples and program structures into a 
> format your prefered sample editor is able to deal with and then back.
> 
> Even you´d have to deal w/ 2 or 3 different programs then, it´s much 
> faster than dealing w/ midi sample dump,- and the programs would reside 
> on the same machine.
> 
> Avalon is a collectors item, but not for todays daily work I fear.
> 
> 
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> ariaraker schrieb:
> >
> >
> > Thanks for the clarification Pewe, i understand better now.
> > I didn't understand it don't need a dongle.
> >
> > As for multitasking, since then i ask for atari gear on a music forum 
> > i use. Someone offers me a ste, stf, falcon030, mega st, cubase 3.11 and
> > cubase audio with interface. I expect it will be concluding.
> >
> > As for Avalon (appart of old apple computer and Alchemy) is one of the 
> > only program i found that is supposed to allow communication or 12bit 
> > midi dump with emax.
> >
> >
>

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> On Apr 27, 2009, at 7:08 AM, ariaraker wrote:
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> > As for Avalon (appart of old apple computer and Alchemy) is one of  
> > the only program i found that is supposed to allow communication or  
> > 12bit midi dump with emax.
> 
> Sample Wrench for Windows and Amiga will work with this sampler and  
> many others.
> 
> -t
>