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Alright........i need help with my AN1 x......All i need to now is how to 
make all 16 tracks play at the same time....i dont have a manual......my 
Adobe sucks....as well as my computer....so i cant download the manual.....i 
went to the Yamaha site...and it didnt really help....so....please help 
me......Im new at this stuff and I have no clue what all this cutoff 
-sync-hypermagnolia drive distance flow frequencies do.....so pleae help me 
with the Midi part.....all  i need to know is how to make them play all at 
once......k......sorry so rude/////
thankyou.....
P.S. - im broke and cant afford the manual

OK
    Deep breath- relax. We're here to help.

You want to : " make all 16 tracks play at the same time"
I assume that means you want to assign 16 different An1x sounds to 16
different midi channels - is that what you mean ?

If so - let us know (here on the list) and we'll assist you.
(but realize you can only play 10 notes at one time on the AN1x).

Todd :)

> From: Sotelamonkey@...
> Reply-To: AN1x-list@egroups.com
> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2000 14:13:33 EDT
> To: AN1x-list@egroups.com
> Subject: Re: [AN1x-list] Digest Number 142
> 
> Alright........i need help with my AN1 x......All i need to now is how to
> make all 16 tracks play at the same time....i dont have a manual......my
> Adobe sucks....as well as my computer....so i cant download the manual.....i
> went to the Yamaha site...and it didnt really help....so....please help
> me......Im new at this stuff and I have no clue what all this cutoff
> -sync-hypermagnolia drive distance flow frequencies do.....so pleae help me
> with the Midi part.....all  i need to know is how to make them play all at
> once......k......sorry so rude/////
> thankyou.....
> P.S. - im broke and cant afford the manual
>

whoah, hold on there big boy....

The AN1x is only "bitimbral" which means that it can only play 2 tracks from
a sequencer simultaneously.  It wasn't built to be a replacement for an
orchestra - it's an analog modeler.  If you're trying to play standard MIDI
files then you'll need what's known as a "ROMpler", that is - a digital
synth built to accept General MIDI that's got all those boring old sounds in
it.  In lieu of this, just play the files on your sound card from your PC.

> 
> Alright........i need help with my AN1 x......All i need to 
> now is how to 
> make all 16 tracks play at the same time....i dont have a 
> manual......my 
> Adobe sucks....as well as my computer....so i cant download 
> the manual.....i 
> went to the Yamaha site...and it didnt really 
> help....so....please help 
> me......Im new at this stuff and I have no clue what all this cutoff 
> -sync-hypermagnolia drive distance flow frequencies do.....so 
> pleae help me 
> with the Midi part.....all  i need to know is how to make 
> them play all at 
> once......k......sorry so rude/////
> thankyou.....
> P.S. - im broke and cant afford the manual
> 
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uh oh! looks like someone bought an AN1x without checking out the specs *slaps forehead*...bad off deal, great synth tho...good choice, but not for what your trying to do...

ash

angelphkt@... wrote:
> 
> uh oh! looks like someone bought an AN1x without checking out the specs *slaps forehead*...bad off deal, great synth tho...good choice, but not for what your trying to do...


Sounds like they were looking for a *CS1x* and mistakenly got an AN1x instead.


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> 
> You want to : " make all 16 tracks play at the same time"
> I assume that means you want to assign 16 different An1x sounds to 16
> different midi channels - is that what you mean ?

 Unfortunately, impossible.  Bitimbral - 2 channels in, 2 scenes for sounds.

> 
> If so - let us know (here on the list) and we'll assist you.
> (but realize you can only play 10 notes at one time on the AN1x).
> 

That's called "polyphony" and it means what you said - how many simultaneous
notes.
"Timbrality" is usually used to tell how many different sounds can be played
at once.

>> 
>> You want to : " make all 16 tracks play at the same time"
>> I assume that means you want to assign 16 different An1x sounds to 16
>> different midi channels - is that what you mean ?
> 
> Unfortunately, impossible.  Bitimbral - 2 channels in, 2 scenes for sounds.

Ah yes- but you can send program changes.


>> 
>> If so - let us know (here on the list) and we'll assist you.
>> (but realize you can only play 10 notes at one time on the AN1x).
>> 
> 
> That's called "polyphony" and it means what you said - how many simultaneous
> notes.

  Yep.....I still have issues of "Polyphony" Magazine  (predecessor to
"Electronic Musician")... Even though many issues of that Mag were about
mono synths.

> "Timbrality" is usually used to tell how many different sounds can be played
> at once.

  Bi-Timbral is Multi Timbral I guess.
My old Bit One was called Bi-Timbral Cause you could split the Keyboard (but
you couldn't assign 2 midi channels to it).

  I have never seen a Synthesizer spec sheet that said "Timbrality: 16"- are
the manufacturers starting to do that now?

In a message dated 7/27/00 4:44:12 PM Central Daylight Time, tspeer@... 
writes:


<< I have never seen a Synthesizer spec sheet that said "Timbrality: 16"- are
the manufacturers starting to do that now? >>

I've always seen it listed as "parts multi-timbral" don't know if this is a 
new practice or not *shrugs*


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--- In AN1x-list@egroups.com, Sotelamonkey@a... wrote:
> Alright........i need help with my AN1 x......All i need to now is 
how to 
> make all 16 tracks play at the same time....i dont have a 
manual......my 
> Adobe sucks....as well as my computer....so i cant download the 
manual.....i 
> went to the Yamaha site...and it didnt really help....so....please 
help 
> me......
Hm...Fix your computer and get a fresh copy of Adobe-reader and 
download the manual:

http://www.egroups.com/files/AN1x-list/Documentation/an1xe1.pdf

You can only play 2 Tracks (i guess you mean the MIDI-channel) at 
once (with two different patches) (of course you can play 16 tracks 
on two MIDI-channel...but that will sound 
kinda ...hm...interesting...:::rushes to his computer to experiment 
with old GM-files....::: ;O)

Im new at this stuff and I have no clue what all this cutoff 
> -sync-hypermagnolia drive distance flow frequencies do.....so pleae 
> help me 
Oh, there´s a lot to explain. I highly recommend you to get your 
comp. fixed, get Adobe-reader, download the manual and read it.

Hope it helps,

Tom

From: "Edwards, Ed" <ed.edwards@...>


> If you're trying to play standard MIDI
> files then you'll need what's known as a "ROMpler", that is - a digital
> synth built to accept General MIDI that's got all those boring old sounds
in
> it.

Oh, I take issue at this. :)

I have a rompler that doesn't do General MIDI and that isn't boring. :)

Speaking of which, a Korg Triton is General MIDI capable. I've seen... stuff
more boring than that. :)

- Peter

From: "tspeer" <tspeer@...>


> >> You want to : " make all 16 tracks play at the same time"
> >> I assume that means you want to assign 16 different An1x sounds to 16
> >> different midi channels - is that what you mean ?
> >
> > Unfortunately, impossible.  Bitimbral - 2 channels in, 2 scenes for
sounds.
>
> Ah yes- but you can send program changes.

...that take considerable time to execute. Basically, the AN1x is a
unitimbral synth that can do bi-timbral at considerable expense.

>   I have never seen a Synthesizer spec sheet that said "Timbrality: 16"-
are
> the manufacturers starting to do that now?

Er... the phrase "16 part multitimbral" doesn't ring any bell? Modest
top-end modules (Proteus 2000, XV5080) and samplers today are 32 part
multitimbral.

- Peter

> From: "Edwards, Ed" <ed.edwards@...>
> 
> 
> > If you're trying to play standard MIDI
> > files then you'll need what's known as a "ROMpler", that is 
> - a digital
> > synth built to accept General MIDI that's got all those 
> boring old sounds
> in
> > it.
> 
> Oh, I take issue at this. :)

Ah, but I was being sarcastic!  Back in the old days when all we had were
subtractive synthesizers we longed for samples, samplers, ROMplers and the
like.  When they came in, there was a lot of talk about analog synthesis
being obsolete.  The talkers were wrong, of course.  Therefore: the AN1x
lives.  But, by itself it can't do a lot of other stuff.

> 
> I have a rompler that doesn't do General MIDI and that isn't 
> boring. :)
> 
> Speaking of which, a Korg Triton is General MIDI capable. 
> I've seen... stuff
> more boring than that. :)
> 
> - Peter

I guess my point is that the AN1x was built to be a certain type of sound
generation machine (musical instrument), and the person who wanted to play
MIDI songs on it was like trying to make a violin sound like a piano.  A
violin is built for a certain set of sounds, and calling it bad or
inefficient because it can't sound like a piano is like cursing your foot
because you can't see with your toes.

(Oh, and my Korg 01/W still rules as the Beast of Clarity.
http://www.untiedmusic.com/ezekiel/01w.html )