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Hello,

Can anyone give me tips on how to produce a
atmospheric,airy, floating choir sounds.Like the
ambient sound  produced by the group Enigma.

Regards
Alien


		
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My An1x is in it's gig bag, so I can't look at my settings but I did 
post something a while back on this.  Should be able to find it in the 
archives but you may have to go back pretty far.

HTH.

On Feb 26, 2005, at 4:01 PM, Alien Martian wrote:

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> Alien
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Hi,
I will try the archives,but any tips from anyone would
be most appreicated.

Regards
Alien1x


		
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My advice would be to load the "AN Voices" patch and then play 
around with tweaking it.  The amp. and pitch envelopes should be 
about right using "AN Voices" as a basic template but you might need 
to add noise to make it "airy-er".  I've got an OK atmospheric choir 
patch for my Novation A-Station but I have no idea how it was made.  
So, although I know it's possible to get an approximation with VAs, 
ROMplers are better suited for airy, atmospheric choir sounds.


--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, Alien Martian <alien1x@y...> wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> I will try the archives,but any tips from anyone would
> be most appreicated.
> 
> Regards
> Alien1x
> 
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--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, Alien Martian <alien1x@y...> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Can anyone give me tips on how to produce a
> atmospheric,airy, floating choir sounds.Like the
> ambient sound  produced by the group Enigma.
> 
> Regards
> Alien

Okay, so I've been listening to some trakcs off 'The Cross of Changes' and I'm not quite 
certain what you're after. There are some nice organ type pads and some saw tooth synth 
pads which you can make on an AN1x. But much of the 'choir' type sounds are sample 
based and as we've discussed before, this is not the type of sound for which any virtual 
analog synth loans itself to readily. And then there is that great sample from A.P.L.' s 'The 
Calling' too...;-)

If you're up to making your own Voices, here an idea:

Take an organ preset on the AN1x and roll off the Edge on both OSC (50-75) then the 
Filter Cutoff. Modify the Amp EG with an Attack time of 85-90, Sustain of 110-127, and a 
Release of 64-85. Add some Velocity and/or Filter Sensitivity from 12-32. 

Set the pmod Depth on each Osc to +3, -3 respectively. Change the Vari Effect to 
Symphonic and adjust the Mod Freq upwards to .34 or .42.

No offense intended, but there seems to be a reoccurring theme to your posts and while 
you appear to be reluctant to utilize samplers or sample based synthesisers (ROMplers) 
-you haven't elaborated on why so one can only speculate. If this is NOT the case, then I 
would encourage you to check out something along the lines of SampleTank or UltraFocus 
if your inclined towards software based solutions - or if hardware is more your bag, then 
you should ckeck out eBay for a Roland JV1080 which are sellling for a song on the 2nd 
hand market today ($325 on average.) This will allow you access to the 'choir' 'breathy' 
type of vocal sounds you describe.

Jon

Hi Jon,

I will take your advise and tryout various samples
etc.
I was always under the impression 'Enigma' created
those breathy/choir voices from hardware synths.

Thanks for putting me in the right direction, I always
wondered how those sounds may have been created.

Regards
Alien1x

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Hi Dan,

As Jon advised me,I have not really tried Romplers.I
will have to try this out.

However, I have tried to take a sample from a Enigma
CD then played it back through 'reaktor4' grain cloud
synth.Could not quite play it back via An1x setup as
keyboard.I think Reaktors grain cloud is only a sample
player/resynth player.

Regards
Alien


		
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--- In AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com, Alien Martian <alien1x@y...> wrote:
> Hi Dan,
> 
> As Jon advised me,I have not really tried Romplers.I
> will have to try this out.
> 
> However, I have tried to take a sample from a Enigma
> CD then played it back through 'reaktor4' grain cloud
> synth.Could not quite play it back via An1x setup as
> keyboard.I think Reaktors grain cloud is only a sample
> player/resynth player.

Sounds like an interesting idea, unforutnately I know next to nothing about Reaktor so I 
can't help. I've tried something similar using the demo for Cronox2 from Linplug.

Jon

Hi,
I found my original post in the archives about this so here are the 
settings I use to try and approximate this sound.  I think it sounds 
better in the high end, and sounds ok when played in split mode with a 
string sound.

  1. Start with a string sound that's already there. I believe I started
  with #49 analog in the factory set.
  2. Close the VCF Cutoff on both oscs.
  3. Add some resonance to round out the sound.
  4. Use some LPF12 with the cutoff at 81.
  5. Play around with the FM section. IIRC I have Pmod depth at -1, FM to
  algorithm and FM depth at +18. These are set to taste so take my
  numbers lightly.
  6. Add effects to taste.
"Egun On, Lagunak!!"  (Basque For "G'day, Mates")
Pete

--- Pete Nalda <nalda@...> wrote:

>Ref:
> I found my original post in the archives about this
> so here are the 
> settings.

Hi Pete I will let all know How I get on with this.

Regards
Alien


	
		
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