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Re: [AN1x] remix patches

2003-10-01 by James Acker

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> I got a remix gig. I get to remix a tune for free-no I haven't heard 
> the song yet, no I don't know the key or the tempo. I have plenty of 
> street cred as a white guy in my 40s who has never been in a club in 
> his life.
> 

Sorry...I'm 47 so you wouldn't WANT any tips from me, but I have a question.. :-)

Or a couple.

I am used to the term "remix" meaning to take the original tracks and mix them again, possibly changing EQ, levels, or even adding effects. Remixing to make the bass stand out better, etc. This seems also to be what is meant when you get a "remastered" CD like Pink Floyd, and all the older groups come out with.

It also can mean adding things, like a new bass line, or an extra guitar (okay...synth)

I also am slightly aware of it meaning in rap/house/whatever-else-l-am-hopelessly-out-of-touch-with that you take someone elses mix (or your own...from the same CD) and do what I described above, but where the result is radically different than the original.

Does it mean more than that? I guess I don't get how you can decide before hearing what beat you are going to use and what kind of bass....it seems foreign to me, like "no matter what it sounds like...I am going to get it into THIS kind of song" (not that there is anything bad about that..) 

But WHAT really does it mean? Is it different than simply sampling bits of the song and restructuring the whole thing?

I ask because it is dawning on me that I don't know what remix means in the context you use it in.

Regards,

Jim
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but not in practice."
====================================================

Re: [AN1x] remix patches

2003-10-01 by Bruce Wahler

Hi Jim,

>I am used to the term "remix" meaning to take the original tracks and mix them again, possibly changing EQ, levels, or even adding effects. Remixing to make the bass stand out better, etc. This seems also to be what is meant when you get a "remastered" CD like Pink Floyd, and all the older groups come out with.
>
>I also am slightly aware of it meaning in rap/house/whatever-else-l-am-hopelessly-out-of-touch-with that you take someone elses mix (or your own...from the same CD) and do what I described above, but where the result is radically different than the original.

It tends to be more than EQ or added instruments.  As a general trend, a "remix" in the manner we're discussing here is usually longer, more danceable -- often completely non-dance genre songs are turned into dance remixes -- and add a capella or broken-down parts (just bass and drums, etc.).  Sometimes, samples from one part of a song are triggered into another part.  There are no hard-and-fast rules; the end result is supposed to be intriguing and danceable -- everything else is up for discussion.

Go down to your local record store and rummage through the 12" LPs for some ideas.  Also, look for CD singles with a "house remix" or something similar along with the original track.

Regards,

-BW
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Re: [AN1x] remix patches

2003-10-01 by Peter Korsten

James Acker schreef:

> But WHAT really does it mean? Is it different than simply sampling bits of the song and restructuring the whole thing?
> 
> I ask because it is dawning on me that I don't know what remix means in the context you use it in.

In this context, it usually means screwing up a song and make it 
palpable for club use.

It can be reminiscent of the original, but more often than not there's 
very little similarity.

- Peter

Re: [AN1x] remix patches

2003-10-02 by James Acker

Thanks Bruce, and all that responded. I have now...half a clue.

Thanks

:-)

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Re: [AN1x] remix patches

2003-10-03 by Administrator ( Dale Kay )

How to remix, the quick version ?

Great job, that pretty much ties that definition of re-mix up.

I am not too much into listening to re-mixes done this way but there have been a few good ones I have heard.

To me "re-mix" means to take the master tracks and tinker a bit with them, pulling out the vocals to a more fore front or that hidden bass, snare, kill cow bell or something along those lines. A example is Neil Young's Trans Album. On vinyl is sound one way. Later on, many years later, the CD has a totally different sound. Same songs but re-mixed for the CD.

In Tangerine Dream circles, we call that tangetized. As TD is so found of doing this sometimes.

I am familiar with the method you described. There are a few more to making re-mixing dance items.

dale

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  From: Sharon S. 
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  Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 5:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [AN1x] remix patches


  Hello 

  What is a remix and why we need it.

  Remix is an art where you take some elements from the original tune,for most its a vocal or some special guitar,bass or synth part . And start to creat a new tune deferrent in flaivor and/or defferent in style.The resolt do need to be radicall is you want the remix to be good.

  The reason that big records company do a remix for they leading artists is to take the song to the clubs,to people with deffernt taste to spread the song as much as posible .Same go for the djs that want to have other gender styles tracks.
  The world full with great remixs ,that only do good for the original song or tune and gave the original creator popularity 
  A good exsemplle is :

  Everything But The Girl - Miss you (Tod Terry  Remix)

  Jimmy you want to do a 4*4 mix at 130bmp. I would sagest to do a very simple KiK+HH+Snare 
  Than start with the original track vocal ( in case that there any )

  When the vocal sit tyde with the drum i would build everything around the vocal ,its mean to do more fat drum also .

  What I do sagest is do not put any original drums on you new remix cause you will end up with more or less same feeling with in the track


  Hope this helps 

  Sharon 


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: James Acker 
    To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com 
    Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 10:06 PM
    Subject: Re: [AN1x] remix patches


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "spaceanimals" <rainbowjimmy@...>
    To: <AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 6:51 PM
    Subject: [AN1x] remix patches


    > I got a remix gig. I get to remix a tune for free-no I haven't heard 
    > the song yet, no I don't know the key or the tempo. I have plenty of 
    > street cred as a white guy in my 40s who has never been in a club in 
    > his life.
    > 

    Sorry...I'm 47 so you wouldn't WANT any tips from me, but I have a question.. :-)

    Or a couple.

    I am used to the term "remix" meaning to take the original tracks and mix them again, possibly changing EQ, levels, or even adding effects. Remixing to make the bass stand out better, etc. This seems also to be what is meant when you get a "remastered" CD like Pink Floyd, and all the older groups come out with.

    It also can mean adding things, like a new bass line, or an extra guitar (okay...synth)

    I also am slightly aware of it meaning in rap/house/whatever-else-l-am-hopelessly-out-of-touch-with that you take someone elses mix (or your own...from the same CD) and do what I described above, but where the result is radically different than the original.

    Does it mean more than that? I guess I don't get how you can decide before hearing what beat you are going to use and what kind of bass....it seems foreign to me, like "no matter what it sounds like...I am going to get it into THIS kind of song" (not that there is anything bad about that..) 

    But WHAT really does it mean? Is it different than simply sampling bits of the song and restructuring the whole thing?

    I ask because it is dawning on me that I don't know what remix means in the context you use it in.

    Regards,

    Jim
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    http://www.soundclick.com/bands/1/jackermusic.htm

    "In theory there is no difference between theory and practice, 
    but not in practice."
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Re: [AN1x] remix patches

2003-10-04 by Sharon S.

Hello 

What is a remix and why we need it.

Remix is an art where you take some elements from the original tune,for most its a vocal or some special guitar,bass or synth part . And start to creat a new tune deferrent in flaivor and/or defferent in style.The resolt do need to be radicall is you want the remix to be good.

The reason that big records company do a remix for they leading artists is to take the song to the clubs,to people with deffernt taste to spread the song as much as posible .Same go for the djs that want to have other gender styles tracks.
The world full with great remixs ,that only do good for the original song or tune and gave the original creator popularity 
A good exsemplle is :

Everything But The Girl - Miss you (Tod Terry  Remix)

Jimmy you want to do a 4*4 mix at 130bmp. I would sagest to do a very simple KiK+HH+Snare 
Than start with the original track vocal ( in case that there any )

When the vocal sit tyde with the drum i would build everything around the vocal ,its mean to do more fat drum also .

What I do sagest is do not put any original drums on you new remix cause you will end up with more or less same feeling with in the track


Hope this helps 

Sharon
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: James Acker 
  To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 10:06 PM
  Subject: Re: [AN1x] remix patches


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "spaceanimals" <rainbowjimmy@...>
  To: <AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com>
  Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 6:51 PM
  Subject: [AN1x] remix patches


  > I got a remix gig. I get to remix a tune for free-no I haven't heard 
  > the song yet, no I don't know the key or the tempo. I have plenty of 
  > street cred as a white guy in my 40s who has never been in a club in 
  > his life.
  > 

  Sorry...I'm 47 so you wouldn't WANT any tips from me, but I have a question.. :-)

  Or a couple.

  I am used to the term "remix" meaning to take the original tracks and mix them again, possibly changing EQ, levels, or even adding effects. Remixing to make the bass stand out better, etc. This seems also to be what is meant when you get a "remastered" CD like Pink Floyd, and all the older groups come out with.

  It also can mean adding things, like a new bass line, or an extra guitar (okay...synth)

  I also am slightly aware of it meaning in rap/house/whatever-else-l-am-hopelessly-out-of-touch-with that you take someone elses mix (or your own...from the same CD) and do what I described above, but where the result is radically different than the original.

  Does it mean more than that? I guess I don't get how you can decide before hearing what beat you are going to use and what kind of bass....it seems foreign to me, like "no matter what it sounds like...I am going to get it into THIS kind of song" (not that there is anything bad about that..) 

  But WHAT really does it mean? Is it different than simply sampling bits of the song and restructuring the whole thing?

  I ask because it is dawning on me that I don't know what remix means in the context you use it in.

  Regards,

  Jim
  ====================================================
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  http://www.soundclick.com/bands/1/jackermusic.htm

  "In theory there is no difference between theory and practice, 
  but not in practice."
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Re: [AN1x] remix patches

2003-10-04 by fh- density

HI i´m from Colombia- BOGOTA-
 
Some time ago i made a remix for a national artist.. He´s  style is kind of salsa, romantic style and more or less rock.. but i made a electro remix.
the only element that conserve of the original was the voice. . but i dint use the same armoni of the singer and in some parts of my song i cut the voice rearrange it and make new versus with the cut parts.. When the climax of my song came out. i used the original voice. . I think that you had to be realy creative with the way you use the voice.. I prefer when the voice  comes in a place were even imagine it. That makes the people goes crazy..  sorry about my bad english.. 
 
 


"Administrator ( Dale Kay )" <admin@...> wrote:
How to remix, the quick version ?

Great job, that pretty much ties that definition of re-mix up.

I am not too much into listening to re-mixes done this way but there have been a few good ones I have heard.

To me "re-mix" means to take the master tracks and tinker a bit with them, pulling out the vocals to a more fore front or that hidden bass, snare, kill cow bell or something along those lines. A example is Neil Young's Trans Album. On vinyl is sound one way. Later on, many years later, the CD has a totally different sound. Same songs but re-mixed for the CD.

In Tangerine Dream circles, we call that tangetized. As TD is so found of doing this sometimes.

I am familiar with the method you described. There are a few more to making re-mixing dance items.

dale

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Sharon S. 
  To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, October 03, 2003 5:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [AN1x] remix patches


  Hello 

  What is a remix and why we need it.

  Remix is an art where you take some elements from the original tune,for most its a vocal or some special guitar,bass or synth part . And start to creat a new tune deferrent in flaivor and/or defferent in style.The resolt do need to be radicall is you want the remix to be good.

  The reason that big records company do a remix for they leading artists is to take the song to the clubs,to people with deffernt taste to spread the song as much as posible .Same go for the djs that want to have other gender styles tracks.
  The world full with great remixs ,that only do good for the original song or tune and gave the original creator popularity 
  A good exsemplle is :

  Everything But The Girl - Miss you (Tod Terry  Remix)

  Jimmy you want to do a 4*4 mix at 130bmp. I would sagest to do a very simple KiK+HH+Snare 
  Than start with the original track vocal ( in case that there any )

  When the vocal sit tyde with the drum i would build everything around the vocal ,its mean to do more fat drum also .

  What I do sagest is do not put any original drums on you new remix cause you will end up with more or less same feeling with in the track


  Hope this helps 

  Sharon 


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: James Acker 
    To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com 
    Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 10:06 PM
    Subject: Re: [AN1x] remix patches


    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "spaceanimals" <rainbowjimmy@...>
    To: <AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com>
    Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 6:51 PM
    Subject: [AN1x] remix patches


    > I got a remix gig. I get to remix a tune for free-no I haven't heard 
    > the song yet, no I don't know the key or the tempo. I have plenty of 
    > street cred as a white guy in my 40s who has never been in a club in 
    > his life.
    > 

    Sorry...I'm 47 so you wouldn't WANT any tips from me, but I have a question.. :-)

    Or a couple.

    I am used to the term "remix" meaning to take the original tracks and mix them again, possibly changing EQ, levels, or even adding effects. Remixing to make the bass stand out better, etc. This seems also to be what is meant when you get a "remastered" CD like Pink Floyd, and all the older groups come out with.

    It also can mean adding things, like a new bass line, or an extra guitar (okay...synth)

    I also am slightly aware of it meaning in rap/house/whatever-else-l-am-hopelessly-out-of-touch-with that you take someone elses mix (or your own...from the same CD) and do what I described above, but where the result is radically different than the original.

    Does it mean more than that? I guess I don't get how you can decide before hearing what beat you are going to use and what kind of bass....it seems foreign to me, like "no matter what it sounds like...I am going to get it into THIS kind of song" (not that there is anything bad about that..) 

    But WHAT really does it mean? Is it different than simply sampling bits of the song and restructuring the whole thing?

    I ask because it is dawning on me that I don't know what remix means in the context you use it in.

    Regards,

    Jim
    ====================================================
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    http://www.soundclick.com/bands/1/jackermusic.htm

    "In theory there is no difference between theory and practice, 
    but not in practice."
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