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Re: [AN1x] My synth went nuts

Re: [AN1x] My synth went nuts

2002-12-03 by Andrea TONI

Hello,

ummm 

1 - 
i will try to replace the internal battery that keeps 
the setting when u power off the synth 

2 - 
u don't need an1x edit to backup your sounds 
any sysex program like DUMPSTER can get all of your 
patches as a single sysex file 
http://www.geocities.com/piotr3/X5D/Dumpster.zip

or this one even better 

http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/Bomes_SendSX/


good luck 
the an1 is such a nice synth it would be a pity to give-up programming 
like this :-) 

Regards
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Andrea TONI                          VCO1 \    |      |
Science Operation and Data           VCO2-->--VCF--->VCA-->DUCATI 996 
Systems Division (SCI-SD)            VCO3 /    |      | 
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email: Andrea.Toni@...      web: www.rssd.esa.int    

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Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 13:33
Subject: [AN1x] My synth went nuts


> No more synth patch design for me. I turned on the portamento and the 
> delay return went up to 127. I turned the filter knob and the sustain 
> changed. I shut if off, left it for a day, came back, still weird.
> 
> The sounds I have now sound fine. I can't tweak them. My guess is 
> Yamaha never intended anyone to change all the patches and it's too 
> much of a strain on the CPU. I can probably get everything to work 
> fine if I perform the factory reset, but since I don't have AN1X edit 
> and don't have my sounds backed up, this means I'll lose several 
> years of work.
> 
> I would expect a professional synthesizer to last ten years before 
> messing up. I guess that's over optimistic.
> 
> Rainbow Jimmy
> http://www.spaceanimals.com
> http://www.mp3.com/spaceanimals
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Re: [AN1x] My synth went nuts

2002-12-04 by Jon

I think this he's spot on - get a good sysex dump from the AN1x 
and change the Battery...

Jon

--- In AN1x-list@y..., "Andrea TONI" <Andrea.Toni@r...> wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> ummm 
> 
> 1 - 
> i will try to replace the internal battery that keeps 
> the setting when u power off the synth 
> 
> 2 - 
> u don't need an1x edit to backup your sounds 
> any sysex program like DUMPSTER can get all of your 
> patches as a single sysex file 
> http://www.geocities.com/piotr3/X5D/Dumpster.zip
> 
> or this one even better 
> 
> http://www.hitsquad.com/smm/programs/Bomes_SendSX/
> 
> 
> good luck 
> the an1 is such a nice synth it would be a pity to give-up 
programming 
> like this :-) 
> 
> Regards
> -------------------------------------ENV1-----ENV2---ENV3------------
> Andrea TONI                          VCO1 \    |      |
> Science Operation and Data           
VCO2-->--VCF--->VCA-->DUCATI 996 
> Systems Division (SCI-SD)            VCO3 /    |      | 
> -------------------------------------LFO1-----LFO2---LFO3------------
> email: Andrea.Toni@r...      web: www.rssd.esa.int    
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "spaceanimals" <alciere@m...>
> To: <AN1x-list@y...>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 13:33
> Subject: [AN1x] My synth went nuts
> 
> 
> > No more synth patch design for me. I turned on the 
portamento and the 
> > delay return went up to 127. I turned the filter knob and the 
sustain 
> > changed. I shut if off, left it for a day, came back, still weird.
> > 
> > The sounds I have now sound fine. I can't tweak them. My 
guess is 
> > Yamaha never intended anyone to change all the patches 
and it's too 
> > much of a strain on the CPU. I can probably get everything to 
work 
> > fine if I perform the factory reset, but since I don't have AN1X 
edit 
> > and don't have my sounds backed up, this means I'll lose 
several 
> > years of work.
> > 
> > I would expect a professional synthesizer to last ten years 
before 
> > messing up. I guess that's over optimistic.
> > 
> > Rainbow Jimmy
> > http://www.spaceanimals.com
> > http://www.mp3.com/spaceanimals
> > 
> > 
> > Community email addresses:
> >   Post message: AN1x-list@y...
> >   Subscribe:    AN1x-list-subscribe@y...
> >   Unsubscribe:  AN1x-list-unsubscribe@y...
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> >

Re: [AN1x] My synth went nuts

2002-12-04 by Bruce Wahler

Hi Jimmy,

>I think this he's spot on - get a good sysex dump from the AN1x 
>and change the Battery...

Your original request -- a professional keyboard that lasts ten years -- is not unreasonable.  Most of them will last at least 15-20 years under normal circumstances.  However, a BACKUP BATTERY that lasts ten years is asking a lot.  Unfortunately, some keyboards don't recover well from bad data in memory, which can be caused by a bad battery.  I've noticed that the AN1x is very sensitive to this kind of situation.  I had a funny MIDI wiring setup that changed patch 128 to something very strange -- values outside the normal ranges, strange characters on the display, etc. -- and my whole synth started acting weird until I overwrote patch 128 with some decent data.

If you have any means of saving MIDI data, hook up your Annie to the device, and use Bulk Dump All to save all of your data.  I would recommend that you save the patches alone ("all voices") and the sequences alone ("all ptn") as well, in case the system data is messed up.  (Fixing the system data only takes a few minutes afterwards, compared to the other stuff.)  Then replace the battery, do a factory reset -- hold the 7, 8, and 9 buttons down while powering on -- and then reload your "all data" set.  If you still have problems, rerun the reset procedure, then only load the patches and sequences, and manually adjust the system settings if you need to.  In fact, it might be worthwhile to just save the data, run the reset, and reload the data WITHOUT changing the battery, just in case the battery is still fine, but the planetary alignment last week was not. ;^)  If your Annie is less than five years old, a dead battery is a little rare.

Regards,

-BW

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Bruce Wahler
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