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I was wondering if anyone else had run into trouble swapping or 
copying scenes and if they knew a workaround.

I find that when I swap scenes (or copy the contents of one scene to 
another) the mod matrix settings are not transferrred every time. I 
have pitch bend programmed as a default on the x ribbon, and these 
settings don't always make it across to the new patch. So I find 
myself doing these key-presses over and over until they "catch". I do 
find a higher percentage of success when I have recently saved the 
patch but this too is not a guarantee of success. 

In a related, I have switched patch to split mode (it shows correctly 
on the screen) and had them still perform as Unison or Dual patches 
(this patch was unsaved)

I assume there is a reason for this. Anyone know?

Thx,

Jerry

Responding to my own post <grin> in hopes that someone may have 
encountered this.........

--- In AN1x-list@y..., "tuskermusic" <tuskerfort@h...> wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone else had run into trouble swapping or 
> copying scenes and if they knew a workaround.
> 
> I find that when I swap scenes (or copy the contents of one scene 
to 
> another) the mod matrix settings are not transferrred every time. I 
> have pitch bend programmed as a default on the x ribbon, and these 
> settings don't always make it across to the new patch. So I find 
> myself doing these key-presses over and over until they "catch". I 
do 
> find a higher percentage of success when I have recently saved the 
> patch but this too is not a guarantee of success. 
> 
> In a related, I have switched patch to split mode (it shows 
correctly 

> on the screen) and had them still perform as Unison or Dual patches 
> (this patch was unsaved)
> 
> I assume there is a reason for this. Anyone know?
> 
> Thx,
> 
> Jerry

--- In AN1x-list@y..., "tuskermusic" <tuskerfort@h...> wrote:
> Responding to my own post <grin> in hopes that someone 
may have 
> encountered this.........
> 
> --- In AN1x-list@y..., "tuskermusic" <tuskerfort@h...> wrote:
> > I was wondering if anyone else had run into trouble 
swapping or 
> > copying scenes and if they knew a workaround.
> > 
> > I find that when I swap scenes (or copy the contents of one 
scene 
> to 
> > another) the mod matrix settings are not transferrred every 
time. I 
> > have pitch bend programmed as a default on the x ribbon, 
and these 
> > settings don't always make it across to the new patch. So I 
find 
> > myself doing these key-presses over and over until they 
"catch". I 
> do 
> > find a higher percentage of success when I have recently 
saved the 
> > patch but this too is not a guarantee of success. 
> > 

I was able to recreate the problem as described and arrive at a 
solution.

I created a Voice with two similar scenes but with different Ctrl 
Matrix settings. The 1st Scene had PB Up and PB Down 
assigned to the Ribbon X controller - the 2nd Scene had Filter 
Cutoff assigned to the Ribbon X controller.

I used the Scene Store to copy 1 -> 2 but the previous Matrix 
Ssettings were still in effect (just as you described.) After 
scanning the Data List and Owener's Manual for awhile I found 
the answer on Page 99 - "Scene Store loads the data into the 
Scene edit buffer, so you will need to perform a Voice Store 
operation to store the Scene parameters as voice data." This 
would explain why you "find a higher percentage of success 
when I have recently saved the patch" (as stated above.) Once I 
saved the voice data as described the new Matrix Settings were 
in place - double checked by issuing a program change and 
then returning to my test voice.


> > In a related, I have switched patch to split mode (it shows 
> correctly 
> > on the screen) and had them still perform as Unison or Dual 
patches 
> > (this patch was unsaved)
> > 
> > I assume there is a reason for this. Anyone know?
> > 

I'm unable to recreate this problem. I've used a factory preset in 
UNISON mode and changed it to SPLIT mode. I was able to edit 
each Scene of the split independently and the Voice auditioned 
correctly. Can you provide examples from the factory presets or 
upload one of your own voices?

regards,

Jon

> I was able to recreate the problem as described and arrive at a 
> solution.

Jon, your rock. Thanks a lot for working that out. I'll know what to 
do now. It is true I sometimes do a lot of editing before saving. I 
wonder if mode problem is related to the unsaved buffer also. I'll 
try to recreate it.

Cheers,

Jerry