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I have a USB Unitor 8 connected to my MAC and I can't get the effects 
environment set up properly.  Are there any tips?  I used it 
correctly with my old serial 9600 system.  How do I cable the AN1x 
effects environment to Logic?  

Thanks.

--- In AN1x-list@y..., "thestudiolife" <dreinstein@e...> wrote:
> I have a USB Unitor 8 connected to my MAC and I can't get the 
effects 
> environment set up properly.  Are there any tips?  I used it 
> correctly with my old serial 9600 system.  How do I cable the 
AN1x 
> effects environment to Logic?  
> 
> Thanks.

Use the Import Environment -> Layer... command to open the 
AN1vario.LSO file; Import the layer 'Variation'; On the right hand 
side of the window of the Vairation envirnoment you'll see an 
Object named 'Interface' (Modem Port) MTP 12; Copy the AN1x 
Object from within your existing Environment and paste/replace 
the Interface object in the Variation Environment. This is the 
simplest method - don't forget to Save a new Autoload with this 
env layer in place so you don't have to repeat this exercise.

regards,

Jon

Thanks for your response Jon.  I have done what you recommended and 
now I can at least hear that I am changing an effect- I'm past step 
one!  But it doesn't seem like I am able to choose any effect.  
Every time that I select an effect by clicking on one of the buttons 
underneath the effect parameter strips and I hold a note on the 
An1x, I hear I pause in the audio (like when switching programs), 
but I am still only able to get one effect.  It is a chorus like 
effect.  Are each of the faders strips like presets, and the effect 
can be chosen at the bottom by scrolling to the the name of the 
effect that I want?  Am I supposed to be able to choose an effect on 
the bottom of the screen and hear the results?  Are there any 
parameters to change in the AN1x?

Thanks again.

--- In AN1x-list@y..., "thestudiolife" <dreinstein@e...> wrote:
> Thanks for your response Jon.  I have done what you 
recommended and 
> now I can at least hear that I am changing an effect- I'm past 
step 
> one!  

That's great!

> But it doesn't seem like I am able to choose any effect.  
> Every time that I select an effect by clicking on one of the 
buttons 
> underneath the effect parameter strips and I hold a note on the 
> An1x, I hear I pause in the audio (like when switching 
programs), 

If you change effect types while playing yes, there will be an 
audible pop, or pause, in the sound during playback. This is a 
common design limitation of many synths - an the AN1x is no 
exception. Not many synths allow you to change patches or effect 
in real time without some audible interuption to the sound 
output. Those that do offer a work around to this common 
request typically do so at a signficant cost increase over the 
MSRP of the AN1x.


> but I am still only able to get one effect.  It is a chorus like 
> effect.  Are each of the faders strips like presets, and the effect 
> can be chosen at the bottom by scrolling to the the name of the 
> effect that I want? 

It's exactly as you describe - each 'channel strip' is a an AN1x 
Effect Preset - just click the button underneath the 'channel strip' 
of the Effect you want to enable. You may then use the 'knobs' on 
the 'channel strip' for the effect to alter the equivalent parameters 
for that effect on the AN1x.

If you are uncertain whether the correct message are getting 
through I suggest the following:

1.Double check the Port and Channel settings for your AN1x 
object, and it's sub-channels, in your Environment. Are they 
correct?
2. If you select the Vari EF/EQ param on your AN1x under 
Voice/Common you can see the effect selection change when  
commands are issued from Logic.
3. If all else fails - place a Monitor in between the output of the 
Vari layer and your An1x object to see what messages ARE 
getting through...

> Am I supposed to be able to choose an effect on 
> the bottom of the screen and hear the results?

Yes.

> Are there any 
> parameters to change in the AN1x?
> 

No.


> Thanks again.

Hope this helps.

I suggest you spend some time reading Ch. 5 of the Logic 
manual and download the FREE environment tutorials (PDFs) 
from Swiftkick.com so that you may become more familar with 
the environement and its workings.

regards,

Jon

Unfortunetly I still cannot enable an effect by selecting the 
environment buttons and faders.  I still hear I pause in the audio 
(like when switching programs) but no effect change. I checked the 
AN1x and noticed that I was getting a midi buffer overrun error on 
the AN1x (or something like that).  I can however change the effect 
in the AN1x and use the environment to change the parameters of the 
effect, but I have to select the correct environment fader for that 
effect.  It's strange that I am getting the midi errors.  Maybe it's 
a unitor in fast mode or USB issue.  

> 
> 1.Double check the Port and Channel settings for your AN1x 
> object, and it's sub-channels, in your Environment. Are they 
> correct? 

confirmed

> 2. If you select the Vari EF/EQ param on your AN1x under 
> Voice/Common you can see the effect selection change when  
> commands are issued from Logic.

at this stage I noticed the midi errors.

> 3. If all else fails - place a Monitor in between the output of the 
> Vari layer and your An1x object to see what messages ARE 
> getting through...

the effect program changes are not making it.  What should the 
monitor say if I'm sending an effect program change?

 
> I suggest you spend some time reading Ch. 5 of the Logic 
> manual and download the FREE environment tutorials (PDFs) 
> from Swiftkick.com so that you may become more familar with 
> the environement and its workings.

I am in the process of doing this.  Thanks.
 
best regards,

David

--- In AN1x-list@y..., "thestudiolife" <dreinstein@e...> wrote:
> 
> Unfortunetly I still cannot enable an effect by selecting the 
> environment buttons and faders.  I still hear I pause in the 
audio 
> (like when switching programs) but no effect change. I checked 
the 
> AN1x and noticed that I was getting a midi buffer overrun error 
on 
> the AN1x (or something like that).  I can however change the 
effect 
> in the AN1x and use the environment to change the 
parameters of the 
> effect, but I have to select the correct environment fader for that 
> effect.  It's strange that I am getting the midi errors.  Maybe it's 
> a unitor in fast mode or USB issue.  
> 

Okay, let me repeat back to you what I understand to be the 
issue. Correct me if I'm wrong:

When you select a Variation Effect in the Logic Environment the 
AN1x expereinces a midi buffer overrun error and does not 
automatically change to the new Effect. However, you CAN alter 
Effect parameters from the Logic Vari Environment layer channel 
strip(s) *if* you've pre-selected the Effect on the AN1x. Correct?

Since this specific environment layer relies almost entirely on 
SysEx it's not surprising that you would experience an error at 
some point. Using SysEx for real time adjustments is a dodgy 
proposition on ANY synth as SysEx consumes much more of the 
MIDI bandwidth then simple MIDI CC messages. The fact that 
AN1x SysEx packets are large (by design) to begin with does not 
help matters. I would strongly recommend you disable FAST 
Mode on the Unitor. This may be USB related issue but 
considering the track record of success, in general, AN1x users 
have experienced with Emagic MIDI Interfaces this is the best 
place to start.

I've been running an Opcode Studio 128x in MTP emulation 
mode for months and have had minimal problems with SysEx, 
Logic and the AN1x. If I find the time this week I'll try to switch the 
Studio 128x into FAST mode instead and see if I can recreate the 
failure you report. I suspect I may have to fall back to using OMS 
w/ Logic Audio for FAST Mode support.

regards,

Jon