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AN1x Jetsonic Logic Environments?

2002-05-03 by thestudiolife

I have a USB Unitor 8 connected to my MAC and I can't get the effects
environment set up properly. Are there any tips? I used it
correctly with my old serial 9600 system. How do I cable the AN1x
effects environment to Logic?

Thanks.

Re: AN1x Jetsonic Logic Environments?

2002-05-04 by jondl_2000

--- In AN1x-list@y..., "thestudiolife" <dreinstein@e...> wrote:

> I have a USB Unitor 8 connected to my MAC and I can't get the

effects

> environment set up properly. Are there any tips? I used it
> correctly with my old serial 9600 system. How do I cable the

AN1x

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> effects environment to Logic?
>
> Thanks.

Use the Import Environment -> Layer... command to open the
AN1vario.LSO file; Import the layer 'Variation'; On the right hand
side of the window of the Vairation envirnoment you'll see an
Object named 'Interface' (Modem Port) MTP 12; Copy the AN1x
Object from within your existing Environment and paste/replace
the Interface object in the Variation Environment. This is the
simplest method - don't forget to Save a new Autoload with this
env layer in place so you don't have to repeat this exercise.

regards,

Jon

Re: AN1x Jetsonic Logic Environments?

2002-05-04 by thestudiolife

Thanks for your response Jon. I have done what you recommended and
now I can at least hear that I am changing an effect- I'm past step
one! But it doesn't seem like I am able to choose any effect.
Every time that I select an effect by clicking on one of the buttons
underneath the effect parameter strips and I hold a note on the
An1x, I hear I pause in the audio (like when switching programs),
but I am still only able to get one effect. It is a chorus like
effect. Are each of the faders strips like presets, and the effect
can be chosen at the bottom by scrolling to the the name of the
effect that I want? Am I supposed to be able to choose an effect on
the bottom of the screen and hear the results? Are there any
parameters to change in the AN1x?

Thanks again.

Re: AN1x Jetsonic Logic Environments?

2002-05-04 by jondl_2000

--- In AN1x-list@y..., "thestudiolife" <dreinstein@e...> wrote:

> Thanks for your response Jon. I have done what you

recommended and

> now I can at least hear that I am changing an effect- I'm past

step

> one!

That's great!

> But it doesn't seem like I am able to choose any effect.
> Every time that I select an effect by clicking on one of the

buttons

> underneath the effect parameter strips and I hold a note on the
> An1x, I hear I pause in the audio (like when switching

programs),

If you change effect types while playing yes, there will be an
audible pop, or pause, in the sound during playback. This is a
common design limitation of many synths - an the AN1x is no
exception. Not many synths allow you to change patches or effect
in real time without some audible interuption to the sound
output. Those that do offer a work around to this common
request typically do so at a signficant cost increase over the
MSRP of the AN1x.

> but I am still only able to get one effect. It is a chorus like
> effect. Are each of the faders strips like presets, and the effect
> can be chosen at the bottom by scrolling to the the name of the
> effect that I want?

It's exactly as you describe - each 'channel strip' is a an AN1x
Effect Preset - just click the button underneath the 'channel strip'
of the Effect you want to enable. You may then use the 'knobs' on
the 'channel strip' for the effect to alter the equivalent parameters
for that effect on the AN1x.

If you are uncertain whether the correct message are getting
through I suggest the following:

1.Double check the Port and Channel settings for your AN1x
object, and it's sub-channels, in your Environment. Are they
correct?
2. If you select the Vari EF/EQ param on your AN1x under
Voice/Common you can see the effect selection change when
commands are issued from Logic.
3. If all else fails - place a Monitor in between the output of the
Vari layer and your An1x object to see what messages ARE
getting through...

> Am I supposed to be able to choose an effect on
> the bottom of the screen and hear the results?

Yes.

> Are there any
> parameters to change in the AN1x?
>

No.

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> Thanks again.

Hope this helps.

I suggest you spend some time reading Ch. 5 of the Logic
manual and download the FREE environment tutorials (PDFs)
from Swiftkick.com so that you may become more familar with
the environement and its workings.

regards,

Jon

Re: AN1x Jetsonic Logic Environments?

2002-05-06 by thestudiolife

Unfortunetly I still cannot enable an effect by selecting the
environment buttons and faders. I still hear I pause in the audio
(like when switching programs) but no effect change. I checked the
AN1x and noticed that I was getting a midi buffer overrun error on
the AN1x (or something like that). I can however change the effect
in the AN1x and use the environment to change the parameters of the
effect, but I have to select the correct environment fader for that
effect. It's strange that I am getting the midi errors. Maybe it's
a unitor in fast mode or USB issue.

>
> 1.Double check the Port and Channel settings for your AN1x
> object, and it's sub-channels, in your Environment. Are they
> correct?

confirmed

> 2. If you select the Vari EF/EQ param on your AN1x under
> Voice/Common you can see the effect selection change when
> commands are issued from Logic.

at this stage I noticed the midi errors.

> 3. If all else fails - place a Monitor in between the output of the
> Vari layer and your An1x object to see what messages ARE
> getting through...

the effect program changes are not making it. What should the
monitor say if I'm sending an effect program change?

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> I suggest you spend some time reading Ch. 5 of the Logic
> manual and download the FREE environment tutorials (PDFs)
> from Swiftkick.com so that you may become more familar with
> the environement and its workings.

I am in the process of doing this. Thanks.

best regards,

David

Re: AN1x Jetsonic Logic Environments?

2002-05-07 by jondl_2000

--- In AN1x-list@y..., "thestudiolife" <dreinstein@e...> wrote:

>
> Unfortunetly I still cannot enable an effect by selecting the
> environment buttons and faders. I still hear I pause in the

audio

> (like when switching programs) but no effect change. I checked

the

> AN1x and noticed that I was getting a midi buffer overrun error

> the AN1x (or something like that). I can however change the

effect

> in the AN1x and use the environment to change the

parameters of the

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> effect, but I have to select the correct environment fader for that
> effect. It's strange that I am getting the midi errors. Maybe it's
> a unitor in fast mode or USB issue.
>

Okay, let me repeat back to you what I understand to be the
issue. Correct me if I'm wrong:

When you select a Variation Effect in the Logic Environment the
AN1x expereinces a midi buffer overrun error and does not
automatically change to the new Effect. However, you CAN alter
Effect parameters from the Logic Vari Environment layer channel
strip(s) *if* you've pre-selected the Effect on the AN1x. Correct?

Since this specific environment layer relies almost entirely on
SysEx it's not surprising that you would experience an error at
some point. Using SysEx for real time adjustments is a dodgy
proposition on ANY synth as SysEx consumes much more of the
MIDI bandwidth then simple MIDI CC messages. The fact that
AN1x SysEx packets are large (by design) to begin with does not
help matters. I would strongly recommend you disable FAST
Mode on the Unitor. This may be USB related issue but
considering the track record of success, in general, AN1x users
have experienced with Emagic MIDI Interfaces this is the best
place to start.

I've been running an Opcode Studio 128x in MTP emulation
mode for months and have had minimal problems with SysEx,
Logic and the AN1x. If I find the time this week I'll try to switch the
Studio 128x into FAST mode instead and see if I can recreate the
failure you report. I suspect I may have to fall back to using OMS
w/ Logic Audio for FAST Mode support.

regards,

Jon