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> Thanks in advance
>
> P

--- In AN1x-list@y..., "Pete's Account" <peter.scullion@t...> wrote:
> Help,
>
> I'm using my AN1X with Cubase, and as I'm changing the
delay time I'm getting a message flashing on the AN's screen
saying sysex error or soemthing, does anybody know how to
cure this?
>

That's odd indeed...I've seen the error message you describe but
not under those conditions. I assume you mean Delay Depth
(MIDI CC #094), correct? Since this is a standard MIDI CC - not
SysEx you wouldn't think the AN1x would 'choke' like that.

> Is it Cubase or a fauklt with the AN?
>

I suspect it is neither Cubase or the AN1x but rather your MIDI
Interface. What make model are you using - and can you tell us
more about your system - Mac or PC, oeratings system level, etc.
If you're using one of those game port type MIDI Interfaces I'll tell
you right now to get a real MIDI Interface from the likes of
Emagic, Steinberg, MIDIMAN or MOTU and save yourself the
headache ;-)


> Thanks in advance
>
> P

regards,

Jon



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> that USB Interfaces can be problematic with AN edit/bZone etc.
>
> I do hope my beloved synths not buggered, maybe it will be

>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 19:14:40 -0000
> From: "jondl_2000" <jondl_2000@...>
> Subject: Re: Sysex Trouble
>
> --- In AN1x-list@y..., "Pete's Account" <peter.scullion@t...> wrote:
> > No it happens on all the other effects parameters except depth!
> It is the
> > strangest thing as its never happened before. even stranger
> as I change the
> > delay time the messge flashs up, and the AN seems to be
> sending a stream of
> > Sysex making the sequencer slow down/sound break up.
> >
>
> Ooooh, duh! I get it now... :-P
>
> You are literally changing the Delay Time parameter while
> recording aren't you? Okay. Then the AN1x is indeed transmitting
> a SysEx stream to Cubase - and Cubase is dutifully recording
> the information and playing it back. If you go into Event List edit
> mode for that track in Cubase you'll see the SysEx stream. I
> created a simple AN1x and Drum Loop sequence in Logic Audio
> and recorded changes to the Dly time parameters to confirm this
> behavior.
>
> Here's the deal - - SysEx messages for ANY synth are
> considerably larger in size then MIDI CC events consequently
> they eat up *much more* bandwidth. When transmitting SysEx
> streams to any synth it stands a much better chance of success
> at slower tempos - the AN1x chokes easily on SysEx streams to
> begin with so it's no surprise to me that your AN1x is being
> overrun. (This is why I find it preferable to use MDI CC, RPNs,
> and NRPNs over SysEx.)
>
> I'm not certain why you feel it necessary to alter the Delay Time
> settings in real time but no doubt you have a reason. I would
> offer two suggestions as an alternative towards achieving
> similar results: 1) Stick with altering thr Delay Depth setting as
> mentioned - you can create wicked dub type effects - or - 2) Use
> the TempoDly instead which will allow you to sync to MIDI Clock -
> the delay time will then follow tempo changes in your Sequence
> (I assume this is what you are after?)
>
>
> I'll repeat myslef - IMO the performance you experience with your
> set-up will benefit immeasurably with a proper, multi-port MIDI
> Interface. Since you're already using Cubase I'd suggest you
> scope out their current product line. Unless I'm mistaken, their
> MIDIEX 8 model offesr some type of proprietary time stamp
> technology similar to those offered by Emagic (AMT) and MOTU
> (MTS). This would be beneficial in a kit with multiple hardware
> devices. Otherwsie, you'll probably get by just fine with their little
> 2x2 model...
>
>
>
> > Bizare as its never ever happened before, it is connected
> using a budget
> > MPU401 joystick adapter thing which has never given me any
> trouble before
> > accept, actually you have to make sure you switch the AN of
> before PC as it
> > 'zaps' the AN which sends up a 'signal not valid message' or
> something?
> >
> > Are there any decent (& cheapish) USB midi I/O's worth getting
> I have midi
> > on my Soundcard (SW1k) but use that to connect my sampler,
> (need midi I/O to
> > use editor otherwise would put te sampler as midi through) I've
> also heard
> > that USB Interfaces can be problematic with AN edit/bZone etc.
> >
> > I do hope my beloved synths not buggered, maybe it will be
> fine tommorow!
>
>
> regards,
>
> Jon
>
>
>
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