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Someone tells that An200 sounds better than An1x, it got a new wave 
algorithm (multi saw) and maybe Yamaha made a little upgrade at the 
the oscillators. An200 is only 1 part multitibral and has 5 voices of 
polyphony, but it seems to be a very good choice!
What's your opinion?

ciao carissimo io l'an200 l'ho provato a  rimini mentre l'an1x ce        
l'ho a casa,ma  mi sembra molto       piu' versatile l'an200
penso  infatti   che lo       prender\ufffd presto.

ciao       vecchio.
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--- In AN1x-list@y..., carissimi@t... wrote:
> Someone tells that An200 sounds better than An1x, 
> What's your opinion?

Read Gary Gregson´s answer about it (he works for Yamaha, and he 
programmed the AN1x edit, so he knows both):

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list/message/3728

--- In AN1x-list@y..., "mr. eeno" <mr_eeno@h...> wrote:
> 
> ciao carissimo io l'an200 l'ho provato a  rimini mentre l'an1x 
ce        
> l'ho a casa,ma  mi sembra molto       piu' versatile l'an200
> penso  infatti   che lo       prenderò presto.
> 
> ciao       vecchio.
> .hotmail.com.

English please, my gobbledigoohish is a bit rusty...*g*

--- In AN1x-list@y..., "Thomas" <tomfinegan@y...> wrote:
> --- In AN1x-list@y..., carissimi@t... wrote:
> > Someone tells that An200 sounds better than An1x, 
> > What's your opinion?
> 
> Read Gary Gregson´s answer about it (he works for Yamaha, and he 
> programmed the AN1x edit, so he knows both):
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list/message/3728

With all due respect to Gary, his reply differentiated between the 
features of the AN200/PLG150AN in regards to the AN1x. This was to 
explain why some Voices will differ between the two units. Since the 
sound engine for the AN200/PLG150AN is derived from that of the AN1x 
they should, in theory, sound identical. In practice, there may be 
audible differences between individual Voices created on one unit and 
played back on the other. This results from the differences between 
the Oscillators, polyphony, and effects processing. Which 
sounds 'better' is entirely subjective. IMO, which features suit your 
requirements (table top module vs. keyboard) is the more substantial 
question.

I've only played an AN200 briefly on two occasions. IMO, the 
differences are so nuanced I hardly think they'd be noticeable in the 
greater context of a composition. In other words, the audience isn't 
going to be able to tell the difference. Personally, I didn't care 
for the drum sounds on the AN200.

Here are some links to mull over if you're interested in disecting 
the feature sets:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-
list/files/Documentation/plg150_an_specs.htm

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-
list/files/Documentation/an1x_specs.htm

regards,

Jon

--- In AN1x-list@y..., "Thomas" <tomfinegan@y...> wrote:
> --- In AN1x-list@y..., carissimi@t... wrote:
> > Someone tells that An200 sounds better than An1x, 
> > What's your opinion?
> 
> Read Gary Gregson´s answer about it (he works for Yamaha, and he 
> programmed the AN1x edit, so he knows both):
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-list/message/3728

With all due respect to Gary, his reply differentiated between the 
features of the AN200/PLG150AN in regards to the AN1x. This was to 
explain why some Voices will differ between the two units. Since the 
sound engine for the AN200/PLG150AN is derived from that of the AN1x 
they should, in theory, sound identical. In practice, there may be 
audible differences between individual Voices created on one unit and 
played back on the other. This results from the differences between 
the Oscillators, polyphony, and effects processing. Which 
sounds 'better' is entirely subjective. IMO, which features suit your 
requirements (table top module vs. keyboard) is the more substantial 
question.

I've only played an AN200 briefly on two occasions. IMO, the 
differences are so nuanced I hardly think they'd be noticeable in the 
greater context of a composition. In other words, the audience isn't 
going to be able to tell the difference. Personally, I didn't care 
for the drum sounds on the AN200.

Here are some links to mull over if you're interested in disecting 
the feature sets:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-
list/files/Documentation/plg150_an_specs.htm

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AN1x-
list/files/Documentation/an1x_specs.htm

regards,

Jon

Thanx a lot for all this precious suggestion about the An200!!!
Just another question:
Is it possible to use the An1x editor on the An200 or it has another 
editor who don't accepts the An1x voices?
Andrea

The engine inside AN200 is simply the PLG150AN card. Hence An1xEdit
works fine with the AN200, since it fully supports the PLG card.

However AN1xEdit does not cater for the drum tracks of the AN200. 

Note the AN200 is supplied with a modified version of the PLG150AN
editor for Yamahas XGworks. I believe this editor does also cater for
the drum parts. Either way you will be able to use AN1xEdit files.  

Regards

Gary Gregson

Email:gary@...
http://www.yme.co.uk/yme 

-----Original Message-----
From: carissimi@... [mailto:carissimi@...] 
Sent: 29 June 2001 20:26
To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AN1x-list] Re: An200 vs An1x

Thanx a lot for all this precious suggestion about the An200!!!
Just another question:
Is it possible to use the An1x editor on the An200 or it has another 
editor who don't accepts the An1x voices?
Andrea


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Thanx Gary!
Andrea

Hi Andrea,

You can use AN1x editor with AN200 but with one disadvantage, you're not
able to receive patches from AN200 to AN1x edit but other than that it works
just fine. But then ... you come with AN200 editor and IMO it's the best
patch editor I've ever used because it's so clear to understand, the overlay
of functions is so great. You can load AN1x banks with it to AN200 so
you're able to get advantage of all existing AN1x voices.

Cheers,
TimoS

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Sent: 29. kes\ufffdkuuta 2001 22:25
Subject: [AN1x-list] Re: An200 vs An1x


> Thanx a lot for all this precious suggestion about the An200!!!
> Just another question:
> Is it possible to use the An1x editor on the An200 or it has another
> editor who don't accepts the An1x voices?
> Andrea
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TimoS wrote

>>
You can use AN1x editor with AN200 but with one disadvantage, you're not
able to receive patches from AN200 to AN1x edit but other than that it
works
just fine.
<<

Yes...I am afraid the PLG150AN card (which is the heart of the AN200)
does not support bulk requests. So you can't request patch dumps via
AN1xEdit when using the AN200 (or PLG150AN for that matter)

>>
But then ... you come with AN200 editor and IMO it's the best
patch editor I've ever used because it's so clear to understand, the
overlay
of functions is so great. You can load AN1x banks with it to AN200 so
you're able to get advantage of all existing AN1x voices
<<

The AN200/XGworks PLGAN editor is actually constructed from AN1xEdit
source code. However there is a change in how Yamaah implemented patch
download for auditioning....

An1xEdit basically downloads each audition patch to the AN edit buffer
so you can edit and experiment. If you actually want to store the patch
to the device user bank, you have save back to the library and then do a
bulk send.

However, the XGworks editor always downloads the patch data to the user
bank and then sends a program cahnge to select the data into the edit
buffer.

This is not a big deal...but something you should be aware of. I
effectively  means the XGworks editor is actually overwriting your user
bank on the device as you audition voices....which may (or may not) be
what you inteded!   

Regards

Gary Gregson

Email:gary@...
http://www.yme.co.uk/yme

----- Original Message -----

From: "Gary Gregson"
>This is not a big deal...but something you should be aware of. I
>effectively  means the XGworks editor is actually overwriting your user
>bank on the device as you audition voices....which may (or may not) be
>what you inteded!

Yes, it took me some time to realize what's going on there :-) ... but as I
need to continue to praise it more, I think that the AN200 editor software
is so fun and easy to use (and I'm talking about synth track editing here)
that it only left me thinking why did not yamaha made AN1x rack with those
controls as hardware knobs ;-)

Cheers,
TimoS

Hi all!

I just bought a second-hand AN200, but the guy didn't
include the cdrom of software!!!  I know it's free,
but I have not found a place to download it from on
the internet yet...

Can anyone help with this?

thanks,

steve.


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Well, if it´s for free, the Yamaha branch in your country should 
always help you further with it then. Just give them a buzz or write 
a letter and ask nicely for the AN200-CD.

Cheers, Tom
--- In AN1x-list@y..., "mr. fish" <srcodling@y...> wrote:

> Hi all!
> 
> I just bought a second-hand AN200, but the guy didn't
> include the cdrom of software!!!  I know it's free,
> but I have not found a place to download it from on
> the internet yet...
> 
> Can anyone help with this?
> 
> thanks,
> 
> steve.
> 
> 
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I'm new to this list so first of all Hi everybody!

I just bought a AN200 desktopo synth and I have the XGworks software which came bundled. I installed it under WinXP , but the app crashes on startup. "Cannot find entry point for...."

Anyone is using this app under XP. I bought the AN200 partly for this software and for the ability to program the voices and patterns...
It's a pain i cannot use it under XP

Is there a Mac version of it on your disc? Wouldn't mind seeing if 
it will work with an AN1X. Think you can upload it to the files 
section?

Gary.

--- In AN1x-list@y..., <autodafe@t...> wrote:
> I'm new to this list so first of all Hi everybody!
> 
> I just bought a AN200 desktopo synth and I have the XGworks 
software which came bundled. I installed it under WinXP , but the 
app crashes on startup. "Cannot find entry point for...."
> 
> Anyone is using this app under XP. I bought the AN200 partly 
for this software and for the ability to program the voices and 
patterns...
> It's a pain i cannot use it under XP

there is a MAC version on the CD, but I'm on a PC and i cannot read 
it. In addictin, I think this is not FREE softwar, so we shouldn't 
put it in the files section.
mail me if you know how to read MAC files...

bye




--- In AN1x-list@y..., "gndjm23964" <gnmorgan@b...> wrote:

> Is there a Mac version of it on your disc? Wouldn't mind seeing if 
> it will work with an AN1X. Think you can upload it to the files 
> section?
>

The current version of XGworks is not XP compatible. However an XP
version will be released shortly.

In the meantime, you can use AN1xEdit in PLG150AN mode to edit voices on
the AN200.

Regards

Gary Gregson

Email:gary@...
http://www.yme.co.uk/yme 

-----Original Message-----
From: autodafe@... [mailto:autodafe@...] 
Sent: 19 April 2002 17:26
To: AN1x-list@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [AN1x] AN200 software

I'm new to this list so first of all Hi everybody!

I just bought a AN200 desktopo synth and I have the XGworks software
which came bundled. I installed it under WinXP , but the app crashes on
startup. "Cannot find entry point for...."

Anyone is using this app under XP. I bought the AN200 partly for this
software and for the ability to program the voices and patterns...
It's a pain i cannot use it under XP

In a message dated 19/4/02 11:17:46 pm, gary@... writes:

>The current version of XGworks is not XP compatible. However an XP
>version will be released shortly.
>
>In the meantime, you can use AN1xEdit in PLG150AN mode to edit voices on
>the AN200.
>
Can you do a reliable Mac version too??

If the Mac file appears  as an icon when you put the disc in your 
drive then you could attach it to an Email and mail it to me direct 
to evaluate?! If you want to it's...

gnmorgan(at)btinternet.com

Just curious to see if it does work. It should do as the two are 
basically the same, and the AN200 version has a much 
neater/less 'cluttered' interface.

regards,
Gary.

--- In AN1x-list@y..., "antoniograz" <autodafe@t...> wrote:
> there is a MAC version on the CD, but I'm on a PC and i cannot 
read 
> it. In addictin, I think this is not FREE softwar, so we shouldn't 
> put it in the files section.
> mail me if you know how to read MAC files...
> 
> bye
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In AN1x-list@y..., "gndjm23964" <gnmorgan@b...> wrote:
> > Is there a Mac version of it on your disc? Wouldn't mind 
seeing if 

> > it will work with an AN1X. Think you can upload it to the files 
> > section?
> >

hey-

> Hmm... it's been about 3 days.  I sent e-mails to customer support
> from yamahasynth.com and yamaha.com.

i recommend giving them a call, i got their number off the yamaha website
and just transferred around until i got someone on the phone that said they
would send me the software. it showed up about a week later, and the AN200
has been rocking ever since.

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